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I'm no artist.. though I'll admit i dabble, but is it just me or does everything that is generated in this seem to lack emotion? I have seen some very impressi

I'm no artist.. though I'll admit i dabble, but is it just me or does everything that is generated in this seem to lack emotion? I have seen some very impressive pictures but nothing that seems to "emote"

abledon 4y ago
yeah one thing I think of is when an artist 'creates' something, its coming from their brain, like expressing what they feel. When AI generates the Art, even though there is a human curator, the lines and shapes the AI picks out is all random/arbitrary/no-emotion (even though it draws upon a huge dataset of lines/strokes/styles to form). It's "noise" art. The noise is just cleaned up to resemble real things.
astrange 4y ago
If by emotion you mean faces then that’s just a lot of data to fit in the model. The rest is up to the skill of the pilot. You can do a lot with color palettes for instance.
- senectus1 4y ago
  no its more than that... there is no "atmosphere" to them. they're just clean images. Its hard to explain.
  - astrange 4y ago
    They are very clean looking, it could be an effect of SD's compression to be so small. MidJourney's production model is good about dirtying things up, you could use it as a post processor. I think its default style of turning everything into fine art-cyberpunk-movie matte painting gets old though. I've gotten some good atmospheric photorealism results out of DALLE, but currently trying to get outpainting to work to extend them and it's tricky.
up2isomorphism 4y ago
You are not alone. The emote feeling is Because the complexity is not there. Human being never characterize the world with linear rules.
numpad0 4y ago
Yep it’s missing intent, just like machine translation. There somehow seems to be less information than there is in the input. I think more people will start to notice it as time goes by.
- rjh29 4y ago
  > There somehow seems to be less information than there is in the input. This captures my thoughts very well. That's why these images get old very quickly - you can basically imagine the same thing in your mind. There's no real whimsy, surprise or creativity there. For now at least.

abledon 4y ago

yeah one thing I think of is when an artist 'creates' something, its coming from their brain, like expressing what they feel. When AI generates the Art, even though there is a human curator, the lines and shapes the AI picks out is all random/arbitrary/no-emotion (even though it draws upon a huge dataset of lines/strokes/styles to form). It's "noise" art. The noise is just cleaned up to resemble real things.

astrange 4y ago

If by emotion you mean faces then that’s just a lot of data to fit in the model. The rest is up to the skill of the pilot. You can do a lot with color palettes for instance.

senectus1 4y ago
no its more than that... there is no "atmosphere" to them. they're just clean images. Its hard to explain.
- astrange 4y ago
  They are very clean looking, it could be an effect of SD's compression to be so small. MidJourney's production model is good about dirtying things up, you could use it as a post processor. I think its default style of turning everything into fine art-cyberpunk-movie matte painting gets old though. I've gotten some good atmospheric photorealism results out of DALLE, but currently trying to get outpainting to work to extend them and it's tricky.

up2isomorphism 4y ago

You are not alone. The emote feeling is Because the complexity is not there. Human being never characterize the world with linear rules.

numpad0 4y ago

Yep it’s missing intent, just like machine translation. There somehow seems to be less information than there is in the input. I think more people will start to notice it as time goes by.

rjh29 4y ago
> There somehow seems to be less information than there is in the input. This captures my thoughts very well. That's why these images get old very quickly - you can basically imagine the same thing in your mind. There's no real whimsy, surprise or creativity there. For now at least.