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"The move affects millions of developers, as the Python extension is by far the most popular tool in the VS Code Marketplace" One of the reasons to use Emacs i

by d0mine 4y ago

"The move affects millions of developers, as the Python extension is by far the most popular tool in the VS Code Marketplace" One of the reasons to use Emacs is to avoid asking Microsoft for permission to code.

memco 4y ago
Does eMacs have a good remote editing and debugging system comparable to VSC? I’ve tried pycharm and nvim, but both were clunky and did not work as well if at all for remote debugging and editing with navigation, autocomplete, linting etc. VSC does all that with very little manual configuration required.
- elcritch 4y ago
  Emacs has "tramp". It can work pretty well. I'm not sure how well modern language servers work with it.
  - db48x 4y ago
    Editors mostly talk to LSP servers via pipes (usually just stdin/stdout, since the editor starts the lsp server), so running them on the remote server via TRAMP is generally not a problem. In principle should just work automatically, though sometimes in practice it does not.
- pxc 4y ago
  > Does eMacs have a good remote editing and debugging system comparable to VSC? Emacs has a remote editing system sort of similar to VSCode, but much older, less slick, and a bit quirkier. But imo it's quite good. It's called TRAMP mode: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode
  - hibbelig 4y ago
    I haven’t used the VSC remote thing. I believe it requires to install things on the remote computer, and if those are unavailable you’re out of luck. Tramp makes do with whatever is there.
systemvoltage 4y ago
The more diversity of tools programmers use, the merrier. We can't all pile up on one Big Tech™ thing and then no one dares to innovate or build another tool. I use vim and sublime text. Similarly, I'd like to see more hardware besides every dev studio using Macbooks. Close to 100% marketshare of macbooks, if that happens, would be terrifying. Microsoft, Apple are awesome. Just that they're now the size of nation states.
wudangmonk 4y ago
I would only consider moving away from emacs for something faster and equally extensible. VSCode always felt slow to me and it seems like a really bad idea to even invest in extending it. I did like the whole idea of LSP and have liked the changes that it has brought to emacs in unifying autocomplete and syntax highlighting even though it doesn't always work and can be rather slow. Too bad that it was Embrace Extend Extinguish all along.

by d0mine 4y ago

memco 4y ago

Does eMacs have a good remote editing and debugging system comparable to VSC? I’ve tried pycharm and nvim, but both were clunky and did not work as well if at all for remote debugging and editing with navigation, autocomplete, linting etc. VSC does all that with very little manual configuration required.

elcritch 4y ago
Emacs has "tramp". It can work pretty well. I'm not sure how well modern language servers work with it.
- db48x 4y ago
  Editors mostly talk to LSP servers via pipes (usually just stdin/stdout, since the editor starts the lsp server), so running them on the remote server via TRAMP is generally not a problem. In principle should just work automatically, though sometimes in practice it does not.
pxc 4y ago
> Does eMacs have a good remote editing and debugging system comparable to VSC? Emacs has a remote editing system sort of similar to VSCode, but much older, less slick, and a bit quirkier. But imo it's quite good. It's called TRAMP mode: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode
- hibbelig 4y ago
  I haven’t used the VSC remote thing. I believe it requires to install things on the remote computer, and if those are unavailable you’re out of luck. Tramp makes do with whatever is there.

systemvoltage 4y ago

The more diversity of tools programmers use, the merrier. We can't all pile up on one Big Tech™ thing and then no one dares to innovate or build another tool. I use vim and sublime text. Similarly, I'd like to see more hardware besides every dev studio using Macbooks. Close to 100% marketshare of macbooks, if that happens, would be terrifying. Microsoft, Apple are awesome. Just that they're now the size of nation states.

wudangmonk 4y ago

I would only consider moving away from emacs for something faster and equally extensible. VSCode always felt slow to me and it seems like a really bad idea to even invest in extending it. I did like the whole idea of LSP and have liked the changes that it has brought to emacs in unifying autocomplete and syntax highlighting even though it doesn't always work and can be rather slow. Too bad that it was Embrace Extend Extinguish all along.