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While I agree the app's UX is absolutely sub-par, the guy could skip steps 4-7 and just tap on Remind Me, as the screen looks exactly the same at step 4 as it d

by falling 15y ago

While I agree the app's UX is absolutely sub-par, the guy could skip steps 4-7 and just tap on Remind Me, as the screen looks exactly the same at step 4 as it does at step 8 and as you can do on every cell with a right pointing arrow. I don't like this trend where everybody is now a UX expert and actively looks for subtle defects everywhere to prove they are smart. Same goes for praising the designers. Sometimes little details are just little details.

apress 15y ago
Thanks for pointing out the mixed up screen shot. Just fixed that. I don't think the flaws here are all that subtle and this is a huge waste of time for me at least three or four times a day. Drawing attention and encouraging discussion of said flaws hopefully gets the attention of the powers-that=be to fix them.
owenmarshall 15y ago
I think this is just poor screenshot placement on his part. The only displayed information is the text you just typed in. There isn't a time/date below. There is no remind me. At least, that's how it works on my 3GS. Using reminders with no Siri has been driving me insane as well.
- masklinn 15y ago
  > At least, that's how it works on my 3GS. Definitely like that on a 4S as well. > Using reminders with no Siri has been driving me insane as well. I don't know, I guess it depends what you use it for: I use it mostly as a todo and to jot things I'll have to do at some point, so the basic UI works really well. In fact, Siri frustrates the fuck out of me because it absolutely completely definitely wants a date or a place and I have not fond out how to tell it to add "butter" on a list of stuff to buy without it wanting me to say where or when I'm going to buy the damn dairy. edit: having written that, I think that's the split in Reminders and the reason why OP does not like it: Reminders is both a reminder and a todos app, the reminders part works like a secretary/assistant (hence Siri mandating a time or a geofence and not allowing for putting it into a specific list) and the todos works as a regular todo (hence manual creation of a task jumping immediately to creating a new one and multiple, easy-to-setup and easy-to-switch-between lists). The issue happens when trying to use reminders-Reminders manually (OP's issue) and todos-Reminders as a secretary (mine) In fact, this seems supported by geofencing handling: it only "knows" addresses from contacts, so the machine has to understand what you're referencing for a reminder (just as your secretary would need to I guess)
  - joelhooks 15y ago
    When she asks "when" say "never" and it skips the date.
    - masklinn 15y ago
      Mmmm I thought I'd tried that, I'll check as soon as I've got something to note. Thanks. edit: and sure enough it worked, I guess I'm retarded.
    - dmd 15y ago
      Or say "remember to" instead of "remind me to". (Double-replying to make sure you see this as well.)
  - dmd 15y ago
    > Siri frustrates the fuck out of me because it absolutely completely definitely wants a date Say "remember to" instead of "remind me to", and it won't ask for a date.
- falling 15y ago
  True, hadn't verified that.
tomlin 15y ago
> the guy could skip steps 4-7 and just tap on Remind Me, as the screen looks exactly the same at step 4 as it does at step 8 and as you can do on every cell with a right pointing arrow. If this were any other manufacturer, I think people wouldn't mind. With Apple, you come to expect refined UX. This is because Apple (and Jobs) have a history of denouncing crappy UI with OCD precision. This is what Apple does best. If Google's search index quality goes down - while it is probably minor - you cringe because you know this is what Google is supposed to be good at. > actively looks for subtle defects everywhere to prove they are smart. Sometimes. But I think in this case it is valid as much of Apple software is nonsense-free.

by falling 15y ago

apress 15y ago

Thanks for pointing out the mixed up screen shot. Just fixed that. I don't think the flaws here are all that subtle and this is a huge waste of time for me at least three or four times a day. Drawing attention and encouraging discussion of said flaws hopefully gets the attention of the powers-that=be to fix them.

owenmarshall 15y ago

I think this is just poor screenshot placement on his part. The only displayed information is the text you just typed in. There isn't a time/date below. There is no remind me. At least, that's how it works on my 3GS. Using reminders with no Siri has been driving me insane as well.

masklinn 15y ago
> At least, that's how it works on my 3GS. Definitely like that on a 4S as well. > Using reminders with no Siri has been driving me insane as well. I don't know, I guess it depends what you use it for: I use it mostly as a todo and to jot things I'll have to do at some point, so the basic UI works really well. In fact, Siri frustrates the fuck out of me because it absolutely completely definitely wants a date or a place and I have not fond out how to tell it to add "butter" on a list of stuff to buy without it wanting me to say where or when I'm going to buy the damn dairy. edit: having written that, I think that's the split in Reminders and the reason why OP does not like it: Reminders is both a reminder and a todos app, the reminders part works like a secretary/assistant (hence Siri mandating a time or a geofence and not allowing for putting it into a specific list) and the todos works as a regular todo (hence manual creation of a task jumping immediately to creating a new one and multiple, easy-to-setup and easy-to-switch-between lists). The issue happens when trying to use reminders-Reminders manually (OP's issue) and todos-Reminders as a secretary (mine) In fact, this seems supported by geofencing handling: it only "knows" addresses from contacts, so the machine has to understand what you're referencing for a reminder (just as your secretary would need to I guess)
- joelhooks 15y ago
  When she asks "when" say "never" and it skips the date.
  - masklinn 15y ago
    Mmmm I thought I'd tried that, I'll check as soon as I've got something to note. Thanks. edit: and sure enough it worked, I guess I'm retarded.
  - dmd 15y ago
    Or say "remember to" instead of "remind me to". (Double-replying to make sure you see this as well.)
- dmd 15y ago
  > Siri frustrates the fuck out of me because it absolutely completely definitely wants a date Say "remember to" instead of "remind me to", and it won't ask for a date.
falling 15y ago
True, hadn't verified that.

tomlin 15y ago

> the guy could skip steps 4-7 and just tap on Remind Me, as the screen looks exactly the same at step 4 as it does at step 8 and as you can do on every cell with a right pointing arrow. If this were any other manufacturer, I think people wouldn't mind. With Apple, you come to expect refined UX. This is because Apple (and Jobs) have a history of denouncing crappy UI with OCD precision. This is what Apple does best. If Google's search index quality goes down - while it is probably minor - you cringe because you know this is what Google is supposed to be good at. > actively looks for subtle defects everywhere to prove they are smart. Sometimes. But I think in this case it is valid as much of Apple software is nonsense-free.