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you are missing the point - its not about me throwing my phone away, its about other people knowing that contacting me is physically impossible, and not expecti

you are missing the point - its not about me throwing my phone away, its about other people knowing that contacting me is physically impossible, and not expecting me to even have a phobe

kube-system 4y ago
Setting boundaries is a healthy skill to exercise, but if you need an excuse you could try hiking or camping? There are still plenty of places on land without cell coverage.
- kevmo314 4y ago
  Coming soon: the national parks service partners with starlink to offer yellowstone internet service.
  - kortilla 4y ago
    That already works. You just bring your dish in there.
- bryanlarsen 4y ago
  Not for long: https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-coverage-above-and-beyond-with-spacex https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-cove...
- ecpottinger 4y ago
  And if you must have the phone in case you need to call for help, take the battery out or turn it completely off so they can't call you.
throwawaylinux 4y ago
Tell them you're going on vacation and won't have phone coverage. Then switch your phone off.
jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
Set up your voice mail greeting and email appropriately.
googlryas 4y ago
Who in your life is demanding to be able to contact you at any random point in time, unless you explicitly tell them it's physically impossible for you to communicate with them?
- ghaff 4y ago
  There are a (very) few people who would expect to be able to reach me relatively quickly in an emergency unless I told them I was going to be off the grid or at least intermittently available for a few weeks. I don't think that's either unusual or unreasonable.
  - googlryas 4y ago
    Not unusual, but it seems like you would want to be contacted in an emergency. So it's a good thing that cruise ships will be getting great internet service. You still have the choice to ignore non-emergency calls and only take emergency calls.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      Maybe? If I'm in the middle of the Atlantic and can't do anything maybe not. In any case, I'd be reasonably confident that regular satellite communications today would get a regular emergency message through assuming someone knows what ship you're on.
bruce511 4y ago
I feel like this is a "you" problem, not a "them" problem. In the sense that you haven't laid out a clear boundary to the "other people". You don't have to go on a cruise ship to get away from email etc. You just say, "I'm offline from x to y". I suspect you are not comfortable actually telling the other people this - I'm not sure if it's employer, customer, or family. In all cases though the right solution is to be clear, and give advance notice. There will likely be some push-back (especially given your past behaviour) but be firm. Feel free to browse all you like. Feel free to post pics to Instagram. But resist the urge to answer emails or messages. Let that wait. Ultimately people will treat your boundaries based on how _you_ treat your boundaries. It's a you problem first, not a them problem.
betwixthewires 4y ago
Tell them to fuck off. Seriously. Set boundaries. Using "no access" as an excuse implies that if you're reachable you're on the hook to serve other people's desires at all times. People need to know that there are times in your life that are reserved for you only, and some people have a problem with that, so you have to tell them yourself in no uncertain terms.
kenjackson 4y ago
I tell people that they can’t reach and do an OOF mail. Works like a charm. The only person who I say can reach me is my dad and all other numbers are blocked.

you are missing the point - its not about me throwing my phone away, its about other people knowing that contacting me is physically impossible, and not expecting me to even have a phobe

kube-system 4y ago

Setting boundaries is a healthy skill to exercise, but if you need an excuse you could try hiking or camping? There are still plenty of places on land without cell coverage.

kevmo314 4y ago
Coming soon: the national parks service partners with starlink to offer yellowstone internet service.
- kortilla 4y ago
  That already works. You just bring your dish in there.
bryanlarsen 4y ago
Not for long: https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-coverage-above-and-beyond-with-spacex https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-cove...
ecpottinger 4y ago
And if you must have the phone in case you need to call for help, take the battery out or turn it completely off so they can't call you.

throwawaylinux 4y ago

Tell them you're going on vacation and won't have phone coverage. Then switch your phone off.

jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago

Set up your voice mail greeting and email appropriately.

googlryas 4y ago

Who in your life is demanding to be able to contact you at any random point in time, unless you explicitly tell them it's physically impossible for you to communicate with them?

ghaff 4y ago
There are a (very) few people who would expect to be able to reach me relatively quickly in an emergency unless I told them I was going to be off the grid or at least intermittently available for a few weeks. I don't think that's either unusual or unreasonable.
- googlryas 4y ago
  Not unusual, but it seems like you would want to be contacted in an emergency. So it's a good thing that cruise ships will be getting great internet service. You still have the choice to ignore non-emergency calls and only take emergency calls.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    Maybe? If I'm in the middle of the Atlantic and can't do anything maybe not. In any case, I'd be reasonably confident that regular satellite communications today would get a regular emergency message through assuming someone knows what ship you're on.

bruce511 4y ago

I feel like this is a "you" problem, not a "them" problem. In the sense that you haven't laid out a clear boundary to the "other people". You don't have to go on a cruise ship to get away from email etc. You just say, "I'm offline from x to y". I suspect you are not comfortable actually telling the other people this - I'm not sure if it's employer, customer, or family. In all cases though the right solution is to be clear, and give advance notice. There will likely be some push-back (especially given your past behaviour) but be firm. Feel free to browse all you like. Feel free to post pics to Instagram. But resist the urge to answer emails or messages. Let that wait. Ultimately people will treat your boundaries based on how _you_ treat your boundaries. It's a you problem first, not a them problem.

betwixthewires 4y ago

Tell them to fuck off. Seriously. Set boundaries. Using "no access" as an excuse implies that if you're reachable you're on the hook to serve other people's desires at all times. People need to know that there are times in your life that are reserved for you only, and some people have a problem with that, so you have to tell them yourself in no uncertain terms.

kenjackson 4y ago

I tell people that they can’t reach and do an OOF mail. Works like a charm. The only person who I say can reach me is my dad and all other numbers are blocked.