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It wasn't only for the rich and wealthy (or those who had anything valuable at all) even in the slightest in some of the Eastern European countries at that time

It wasn't only for the rich and wealthy (or those who had anything valuable at all) even in the slightest in some of the Eastern European countries at that time. If you look at houses in Compton and see metal bars on the windows, you don't instantly think "man, they must have lots of expensive stuff to steal". Kind of the same deal here.

justsomehnguy 4y ago
Yeah, and guys who were installing these doors were blindfolded and couldn't see what the stuff the owner of the apartment had.
- filoleg 4y ago
  Do you genuinely believe that people in eastern europe at the time were so oblivious and naive? I can bet you that on average, they were way more cautious and aware of their surroundings than modern people living in the west are. For once, I don't think that they would consider leaving all of their valuables in front of the front door where everything is visible. Unless installing the front door includes rummaging through the entire apartment, all while the person living there is just standing and smiling. Which, I assure you, isn't how it usually goes. And I am not trying to make it as some attack on people living in the west, I am one of them now myself. It speaks more about how safe and comfortable the modern western life can be, compared to what it was in those eastern european countries back then, that we can afford to be so oblivious to our surroundings and so much less cautious.
  - justsomehnguy 4y ago
    > oblivious and naive I see oblivious and naive people everywhere all the time (eg phone scams) > they were way more cautious and aware of their surroundings than modern people living in the west are Thanks for assuming I'm just a stupid guy from the West. > all of their valuables in front of the front door where everything is visible Of course not, but there is a lot of things what can tell you there could be valuables there. Ruined flat in a commie block is one thing, but a freshly renovated flat in that commie block is another thing. If you think a little you can, probably, understand why I know that.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  the people you are incorrecting and are arguing with?real experience or living in a high crime environment. Maybe it's worth taking their points seriously instead of arguing. Nobody has flimay wooden american-style doors in Russia, everyone installs steel doors, thats the norm.

justsomehnguy 4y ago

Yeah, and guys who were installing these doors were blindfolded and couldn't see what the stuff the owner of the apartment had.

filoleg 4y ago
Do you genuinely believe that people in eastern europe at the time were so oblivious and naive? I can bet you that on average, they were way more cautious and aware of their surroundings than modern people living in the west are. For once, I don't think that they would consider leaving all of their valuables in front of the front door where everything is visible. Unless installing the front door includes rummaging through the entire apartment, all while the person living there is just standing and smiling. Which, I assure you, isn't how it usually goes. And I am not trying to make it as some attack on people living in the west, I am one of them now myself. It speaks more about how safe and comfortable the modern western life can be, compared to what it was in those eastern european countries back then, that we can afford to be so oblivious to our surroundings and so much less cautious.
- justsomehnguy 4y ago
  > oblivious and naive I see oblivious and naive people everywhere all the time (eg phone scams) > they were way more cautious and aware of their surroundings than modern people living in the west are Thanks for assuming I'm just a stupid guy from the West. > all of their valuables in front of the front door where everything is visible Of course not, but there is a lot of things what can tell you there could be valuables there. Ruined flat in a commie block is one thing, but a freshly renovated flat in that commie block is another thing. If you think a little you can, probably, understand why I know that.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
the people you are incorrecting and are arguing with?real experience or living in a high crime environment. Maybe it's worth taking their points seriously instead of arguing. Nobody has flimay wooden american-style doors in Russia, everyone installs steel doors, thats the norm.