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I’m going to guess that they already had/have large satellites for television and/or emergency services though?

stephenhuey 4y ago
Not just emergency - several companies provide satellite internet service that cruise ship passengers can use. https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1419 https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1419
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Retric 4y ago
Their needs are mostly about cheap internet costs reasonably close to shore. Presumably they will continue to need their existing systems on repositioning cruses until Starlink’s satellite to satellite communication works but 90% of their needs can be met without that.
- bryanlarsen 4y ago
  Deployment isn't complete until end of 1Q 2023, by which time Starlink expects to have global coverage.
  - colechristensen 4y ago
    The satellite you see currently needs to be able to see a ground station, there’s no hopping between satellites. Coverage will be limited to these line of sight constraints until the communication between satellites works.
    - bryanlarsen 4y ago
      > until the communication between satellites works. which is Q4 2022, and Royal Caribbean implementation is Q1 2023, so that's moot.
      - Retric 4y ago
        In theory Royal Caribbean implementation finishes in Q1 2023, but that doesn’t mean individual ships aren’t going to have Starlink in Q3 2022. Further, Starlink is aiming for Q4 2022, but that’s not guaranteed.
  - Retric 4y ago
    Use on individual ships isn’t going to wait after instillation of global coverage when they can start saving money on day one. Especially as global coverage is likely to be less than perfect at the beginning.
- InvaderFizz 4y ago
  I expect that except for trans-Atlantic/Pacific, Starlink already has more than sufficient coverage. My Starlink connection in Baja California Sur goes through a hop in Arizona, 800 miles away. This means that all of the Caribbean is likely covered as well as all of Costal Americas.
  - Retric 4y ago
    For Alaska cruses they do reposting via the Panama Canal by crossing the which isn’t completely over Ed by Starlinks current network. https://satellitemap.space/?norad=48119 https://satellitemap.space/?norad=48119 They would also see gaps when traveling further offshore to avoid bad weather etc, until global coverage working.
ceejayoz 4y ago
TV is one-way from high orbit; you just need a receiver. People have had that at home for decades already. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV_satellite_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV_satellite_fleet Emergency service - distress, weather, etc. - go through constellations like Iridium. Low bandwidth, high latency.

Not just emergency - several companies provide satellite internet service that cruise ship passengers can use. https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1419 https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1419

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Retric 4y ago

Their needs are mostly about cheap internet costs reasonably close to shore. Presumably they will continue to need their existing systems on repositioning cruses until Starlink’s satellite to satellite communication works but 90% of their needs can be met without that.

bryanlarsen 4y ago
Deployment isn't complete until end of 1Q 2023, by which time Starlink expects to have global coverage.
- colechristensen 4y ago
  The satellite you see currently needs to be able to see a ground station, there’s no hopping between satellites. Coverage will be limited to these line of sight constraints until the communication between satellites works.
  - bryanlarsen 4y ago
    > until the communication between satellites works. which is Q4 2022, and Royal Caribbean implementation is Q1 2023, so that's moot.
    - Retric 4y ago
      In theory Royal Caribbean implementation finishes in Q1 2023, but that doesn’t mean individual ships aren’t going to have Starlink in Q3 2022. Further, Starlink is aiming for Q4 2022, but that’s not guaranteed.
- Retric 4y ago
  Use on individual ships isn’t going to wait after instillation of global coverage when they can start saving money on day one. Especially as global coverage is likely to be less than perfect at the beginning.
InvaderFizz 4y ago
I expect that except for trans-Atlantic/Pacific, Starlink already has more than sufficient coverage. My Starlink connection in Baja California Sur goes through a hop in Arizona, 800 miles away. This means that all of the Caribbean is likely covered as well as all of Costal Americas.
- Retric 4y ago
  For Alaska cruses they do reposting via the Panama Canal by crossing the which isn’t completely over Ed by Starlinks current network. https://satellitemap.space/?norad=48119 https://satellitemap.space/?norad=48119 They would also see gaps when traveling further offshore to avoid bad weather etc, until global coverage working.

ceejayoz 4y ago

TV is one-way from high orbit; you just need a receiver. People have had that at home for decades already. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV_satellite_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV_satellite_fleet Emergency service - distress, weather, etc. - go through constellations like Iridium. Low bandwidth, high latency.