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Better take: Joe Rogan has an uncanny ability to make people think he's just a bro asking questions and uses that to get people to admit to truly horrendous beh

Better take: Joe Rogan has an uncanny ability to make people think he's just a bro asking questions and uses that to get people to admit to truly horrendous behavior, free of judgement, for his profit and your shock. Seriously, what do you expect him to do when someone says something like that? Immediately end the broadcast and summon the police? What exactly do you think shows like this are for?

jjulius 4y ago
>Seriously, what do you expect him to do when someone says something like that? Instead of "hyena laughing", he could maybe go, "Wait, wait, you actually did that? That's how you hired women? That's pretty fucked up, you know that, right?" and then start having a tough conversation about it.
- MockObject 4y ago
  Is that what you think his audience would prefer?
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  - jjulius 4y ago
    I don't really care what they would prefer, that's simply the more decent thing to do. It also speaks volumes about the audience itself if they don't wanna hear Rogan "just asking questions" about that subject.
    - EarlKing 4y ago
      You think that condemning them is the right way to go, rather than being nonjudgemental? The former will make them shut up. The latter will get them to open up and hang themselves with their own words, as he's proven time and again.
      - jjulius 4y ago
        I would have hoped that my comments around growth, along with the fact that I have not explicitly said that they should be condemned, would suggest to any reasonable reader that I am not arguing that they should be condemned. In point of fact, it is perfectly possible to ask hard questions without being judgmental. It's objectively wrong to deny employment to a woman just because they won't blow you, but if Rogan is as skilled of an interviewer as so many people paint him out to be, then surely he is capable of approaching the subject with tact. Give your guest the space and the comfort to feel open with discussing their past experiences and how they may view them now. If, however, they end up feeling shame and shut up, well - that's on them.
      - banannaise 4y ago
        Providing an uncritical lens and an approving audience doesn't encourage someone to change their behavior. Congratulations, we've been shown that the guy is an asshole. He also got a chance to promote his product to people who actually like that product, and arguably given an entire ecosystem that can support him and similar people. Unless Rogan is secretly operating the world's longest, most elaborate public sting operation, I don't think the "let 'em hang themselves" argument really holds water.
standardUser 4y ago
"Seriously, what do you expect him to do when someone says something like that?" A decent person would waste no time talking to a person like that to begin with, let alone give them a massive platform to be heard far and wide.

jjulius 4y ago

>Seriously, what do you expect him to do when someone says something like that? Instead of "hyena laughing", he could maybe go, "Wait, wait, you actually did that? That's how you hired women? That's pretty fucked up, you know that, right?" and then start having a tough conversation about it.

MockObject 4y ago
Is that what you think his audience would prefer?
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- jjulius 4y ago
  I don't really care what they would prefer, that's simply the more decent thing to do. It also speaks volumes about the audience itself if they don't wanna hear Rogan "just asking questions" about that subject.
  - EarlKing 4y ago
    You think that condemning them is the right way to go, rather than being nonjudgemental? The former will make them shut up. The latter will get them to open up and hang themselves with their own words, as he's proven time and again.
    - jjulius 4y ago
      I would have hoped that my comments around growth, along with the fact that I have not explicitly said that they should be condemned, would suggest to any reasonable reader that I am not arguing that they should be condemned. In point of fact, it is perfectly possible to ask hard questions without being judgmental. It's objectively wrong to deny employment to a woman just because they won't blow you, but if Rogan is as skilled of an interviewer as so many people paint him out to be, then surely he is capable of approaching the subject with tact. Give your guest the space and the comfort to feel open with discussing their past experiences and how they may view them now. If, however, they end up feeling shame and shut up, well - that's on them.
    - banannaise 4y ago
      Providing an uncritical lens and an approving audience doesn't encourage someone to change their behavior. Congratulations, we've been shown that the guy is an asshole. He also got a chance to promote his product to people who actually like that product, and arguably given an entire ecosystem that can support him and similar people. Unless Rogan is secretly operating the world's longest, most elaborate public sting operation, I don't think the "let 'em hang themselves" argument really holds water.

standardUser 4y ago

"Seriously, what do you expect him to do when someone says something like that?" A decent person would waste no time talking to a person like that to begin with, let alone give them a massive platform to be heard far and wide.