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So you really believe that denying any and all hierarchy to knowledge is rhetorically useful? Newton's laws of motion and Phrenology equally voratious? You ca

So you really believe that denying any and all hierarchy to knowledge is rhetorically useful? Newton's laws of motion and Phrenology equally voratious? You can have this opinion but it doesn't seem compatible with building a society. Why should a people trying to support a functioning society take such anarchic philosophy seriously? > the truth depends on a balance to be struck between two sets of conflicting reasons. This is terrible reasoning, for the opposite reason you seem to be arguing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

ryandv 4y ago
This is a textbook strawman. Did you understand the passage quoted? John Stuart Mill clearly admits of a hierarchy of knowledge, ranging from the absolute truth of mathematics to progressively less "objective" fields (or perhaps, merely "a posteriori" truths), e.g. morals, religion, politics. Here is another excerpt from the paragraph: But when we turn to subjects infinitely more complicated, to morals, religion, politics, social relations, and the business of life, three-fourths of the arguments for every disputed opinion consist in dispelling the appearances which favour some opinion different from it. The greatest orator, save one, of antiquity, has left it on record that he always studied his adversary's case with as great, if not with still greater, intensity than even his own. https://xkcd.com/435/ https://xkcd.com/435/ P.S. Can you demonstrate how the scientific method was applied when you reached the conclusion that this supposed "real pipeline" exists?
- mikkergp 4y ago
  I never talked about a “real pipeline” that was someone else, also this is a very let me google that for you type question but here goes: https://engineering.stanford.edu/magazine/article/how-fake-news-spreads-real-virus https://engineering.stanford.edu/magazine/article/how-fake-n... This was a great podcast: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/12/02/504155809/episode-739-finding-the-fake-news-king https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/12/02/504155809/epis... The research on this stuff is fascinating.

ryandv 4y ago

This is a textbook strawman. Did you understand the passage quoted? John Stuart Mill clearly admits of a hierarchy of knowledge, ranging from the absolute truth of mathematics to progressively less "objective" fields (or perhaps, merely "a posteriori" truths), e.g. morals, religion, politics. Here is another excerpt from the paragraph: But when we turn to subjects infinitely more complicated, to morals, religion, politics, social relations, and the business of life, three-fourths of the arguments for every disputed opinion consist in dispelling the appearances which favour some opinion different from it. The greatest orator, save one, of antiquity, has left it on record that he always studied his adversary's case with as great, if not with still greater, intensity than even his own. https://xkcd.com/435/ https://xkcd.com/435/ P.S. Can you demonstrate how the scientific method was applied when you reached the conclusion that this supposed "real pipeline" exists?

mikkergp 4y ago
I never talked about a “real pipeline” that was someone else, also this is a very let me google that for you type question but here goes: https://engineering.stanford.edu/magazine/article/how-fake-news-spreads-real-virus https://engineering.stanford.edu/magazine/article/how-fake-n... This was a great podcast: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/12/02/504155809/episode-739-finding-the-fake-news-king https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/12/02/504155809/epis... The research on this stuff is fascinating.