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No

by zcam 4y ago

smabie 4y ago
Which is coincidentally the same answer as every other "does X (heh) work with Wayland" question
- llllllllllll9 4y ago
  :D
- vaylian 4y ago
  I disagree. There are plenty of programs that run just fine on Wayland. I acknowledge the effort that OP has put into this project. And if the OP plans to use X11 for the foreseeable future, then it makes sense to target X11. But for any new project with a wide audience Wayland is a much more reasonable target.
  - amaranth 4y ago
    There is no way to "target wayland" for a tool like this. For security reasons pretty much everything this tool does is blocked on wayland. You could perhaps make a version for sway and other wlroots-using desktops that works mostly like the current tool. For GNOME you might be able to get away with rewriting it in JS as a shell extension, no idea for KDE.
    - llllllllllll9 4y ago
      yeah. this is as far as you get: https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool. begs the question. how come ahk can run on windows(tm) but not wayland? my understanding is that win10/11 are pretty secure.
    - selfhoster11 4y ago
      IMO, a position of "LOL, it works just fine on Wayland, just write it from scratch in six different programming languages to cover 80-90% of DEs/WMs out there" is not very developer (or for that matter, user) friendly. At least X11 is a single interface to target.
    - jrm4 4y ago
      What's interesting is, very often, "for security reasons" is a complete BS kludge to say "we don't want to implement this." I normally wouldn't expect that sort of thing from Linux folk...perhaps until now.
      - llllllllllll9 4y ago
        it's a variant of "for the children ..."
  - selfhoster11 4y ago
    I literally just recently had to switch a brand-new Ubuntu installation to X11 because Synergy/Barrier wasn't working in Wayland mode [0]. Until Wayland gets its head in the game, I'm staying on X11 for as long as possible. [0]: https://github.com/symless/synergy-core/issues/4090 https://github.com/symless/synergy-core/issues/4090
- marcodiego 4y ago
  Not true. Specially OBS, AFAIK, works on Wayland.

by zcam 4y ago

smabie 4y ago

Which is coincidentally the same answer as every other "does X (heh) work with Wayland" question

llllllllllll9 4y ago
:D
vaylian 4y ago
I disagree. There are plenty of programs that run just fine on Wayland. I acknowledge the effort that OP has put into this project. And if the OP plans to use X11 for the foreseeable future, then it makes sense to target X11. But for any new project with a wide audience Wayland is a much more reasonable target.
- amaranth 4y ago
  There is no way to "target wayland" for a tool like this. For security reasons pretty much everything this tool does is blocked on wayland. You could perhaps make a version for sway and other wlroots-using desktops that works mostly like the current tool. For GNOME you might be able to get away with rewriting it in JS as a shell extension, no idea for KDE.
  - llllllllllll9 4y ago
    yeah. this is as far as you get: https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool. begs the question. how come ahk can run on windows(tm) but not wayland? my understanding is that win10/11 are pretty secure.
  - selfhoster11 4y ago
    IMO, a position of "LOL, it works just fine on Wayland, just write it from scratch in six different programming languages to cover 80-90% of DEs/WMs out there" is not very developer (or for that matter, user) friendly. At least X11 is a single interface to target.
  - jrm4 4y ago
    What's interesting is, very often, "for security reasons" is a complete BS kludge to say "we don't want to implement this." I normally wouldn't expect that sort of thing from Linux folk...perhaps until now.
    - llllllllllll9 4y ago
      it's a variant of "for the children ..."
- selfhoster11 4y ago
  I literally just recently had to switch a brand-new Ubuntu installation to X11 because Synergy/Barrier wasn't working in Wayland mode [0]. Until Wayland gets its head in the game, I'm staying on X11 for as long as possible. [0]: https://github.com/symless/synergy-core/issues/4090 https://github.com/symless/synergy-core/issues/4090
marcodiego 4y ago
Not true. Specially OBS, AFAIK, works on Wayland.