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Here's the clip for anyone who's curious: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/joe-rogan-joe-coco-diaz-female-comedians-oral-sex-podcas

Here's the clip for anyone who's curious: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/joe-rogan-joe-coco-diaz-female-comedians-oral-sex-podcast-video-a9576961.html https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news... I'm generally fairly ambivalent about Joe Rogan. I will listen occasionally if he has an interesting guest, and I feel a lot of the outrage about him is overblown. But I agree this is pretty disgusting.

jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
God, half the reason I didn't look it up is I knew it'd just piss me off again, but I forgot all that about being proud he "broke" someone. So yeah, I would really not associate my business with this cluster of clowns.
- AzzieElbab 4y ago
  that video is 12 years old. As far as I can tell every episode back then was a bunch of wasted/high comedians talking sht to an audience of basically themselves
  - octodog 4y ago
    ...so? If anything that's worse because it indicates their true outlook and behaviour.
    - jeffy90 4y ago
      We should take into account the amount of time he spends being recorded, the frequency of the incidents, and the trends of the incidents over time. I think most everyone has said something wrong in the last 12 years. If it happened 12 years ago and hasn't happened since, then I'll give him a pass. If it's a repeating thing, then I'll judge more harshly.
      - philosopher1234 4y ago
        Did you describe forcing a dozen women to give you a blow job 12 years ago? I didn’t. Why is that so trivial to you?
        belter 4y ago
        That is not what is described in the joke.
        jeffy90 4y ago
        I was referring to Joe Rogan laughing at the story. I'm not going to judge someone based solely on their reaction to a story being told to them 12 years ago.
  - jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
    "When people show you who they are the first time believe them." -- Maya Angelou
    - xdennis 4y ago
      "Base your morality on internet quotes and don't accept that people and times change." — Mark Twain
      - kingcoleman 4y ago
        That quote is often misattributed to mark twain but it was actually Kaiser Wilhelm the 3rd. It's a common mistake.
      - philosopher1234 4y ago
        Why should we believe he’s changed?
        wlpu 4y ago
        >we You're an individual not a group
        AzzieElbab 4y ago
        ‘We’ means this person expects you to agree/comply
  - ruw1090 4y ago
    Sure, but given multiple opportunities (every time the clip gets brought up) to condemn it, he hasn’t. This should tell you enough.
s__s 4y ago
Diaz’s whole shtick as a comedian is that he tells these off the cuff, crazy, somewhat believable, but always totally fictional stories about himself. They’re always super offensive, and paint him as a sort of greasy criminal/mobster. So this clip alone isn’t really enough to come to any conclusions. That would be truly awful if the stories he told were at all true, but without additional evidence I’m inclined to believe that they’re nothing more than a comedy routine. The story in this video is offensive for sure, but in context it also wasn’t really all that taboo to make those types of jokes back when this was recorded.
- fatneckbeardz 4y ago
  this comment is literally the definition of gaslighting.
  - kcplate 4y ago
    Or it’s a wholly accurate representation of Joey Diaz’s act. However, that doesn’t have to change the fact that if his comedy’s content (true or not) is offensive to you that you have to like it, accept it, pay to see it…etc.
  - s__s 4y ago
    Trying to diminish something said in earnest by later claiming it was a joke is definitely a technique that can be used to gaslight. But right now we’re talking about a comedian who’s essentially recording himself performing. It’s quite obviously different. It would be silly to assume a comedian is telling the truth during a performance, and absurd to claim said comedian is gaslighting when he later explains that he was joking.
    - philosopher1234 4y ago
      So everything said by Joey Diaz and joe Rohan on their podcast is, in your view, a joke with no truth value?
      - 4y ago

jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago

God, half the reason I didn't look it up is I knew it'd just piss me off again, but I forgot all that about being proud he "broke" someone. So yeah, I would really not associate my business with this cluster of clowns.

AzzieElbab 4y ago
that video is 12 years old. As far as I can tell every episode back then was a bunch of wasted/high comedians talking sht to an audience of basically themselves
- octodog 4y ago
  ...so? If anything that's worse because it indicates their true outlook and behaviour.
  - jeffy90 4y ago
    We should take into account the amount of time he spends being recorded, the frequency of the incidents, and the trends of the incidents over time. I think most everyone has said something wrong in the last 12 years. If it happened 12 years ago and hasn't happened since, then I'll give him a pass. If it's a repeating thing, then I'll judge more harshly.
    - philosopher1234 4y ago
      Did you describe forcing a dozen women to give you a blow job 12 years ago? I didn’t. Why is that so trivial to you?
      - belter 4y ago
        That is not what is described in the joke.
      - jeffy90 4y ago
        I was referring to Joe Rogan laughing at the story. I'm not going to judge someone based solely on their reaction to a story being told to them 12 years ago.
- jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
  "When people show you who they are the first time believe them." -- Maya Angelou
  - xdennis 4y ago
    "Base your morality on internet quotes and don't accept that people and times change." — Mark Twain
    - kingcoleman 4y ago
      That quote is often misattributed to mark twain but it was actually Kaiser Wilhelm the 3rd. It's a common mistake.
    - philosopher1234 4y ago
      Why should we believe he’s changed?
      - wlpu 4y ago
        >we You're an individual not a group
        AzzieElbab 4y ago
        ‘We’ means this person expects you to agree/comply
- ruw1090 4y ago
  Sure, but given multiple opportunities (every time the clip gets brought up) to condemn it, he hasn’t. This should tell you enough.

s__s 4y ago

Diaz’s whole shtick as a comedian is that he tells these off the cuff, crazy, somewhat believable, but always totally fictional stories about himself. They’re always super offensive, and paint him as a sort of greasy criminal/mobster. So this clip alone isn’t really enough to come to any conclusions. That would be truly awful if the stories he told were at all true, but without additional evidence I’m inclined to believe that they’re nothing more than a comedy routine. The story in this video is offensive for sure, but in context it also wasn’t really all that taboo to make those types of jokes back when this was recorded.

fatneckbeardz 4y ago
this comment is literally the definition of gaslighting.
- kcplate 4y ago
  Or it’s a wholly accurate representation of Joey Diaz’s act. However, that doesn’t have to change the fact that if his comedy’s content (true or not) is offensive to you that you have to like it, accept it, pay to see it…etc.
- s__s 4y ago
  Trying to diminish something said in earnest by later claiming it was a joke is definitely a technique that can be used to gaslight. But right now we’re talking about a comedian who’s essentially recording himself performing. It’s quite obviously different. It would be silly to assume a comedian is telling the truth during a performance, and absurd to claim said comedian is gaslighting when he later explains that he was joking.
  - philosopher1234 4y ago
    So everything said by Joey Diaz and joe Rohan on their podcast is, in your view, a joke with no truth value?
    - 4y ago