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Truly, it is incredible that a sitcom star from the peak of network television and who hosted one of the first major reality television gameshows and the early

Truly, it is incredible that a sitcom star from the peak of network television and who hosted one of the first major reality television gameshows and the early years of the MMA rise has managed to parlay that tiny bit of fame into a podcast listenership of 12 million. If only the rest of us could do so much with so little.

choxi 4y ago
I think the overpolished and analytics-driven media personalities left a vacuum for an authentic voice to fill. Someone would have filled it, and it happened to be Joe. It’s not like someone sufficiently motivated could repeat his success trajectory, part of it is always being in the right place at the right time too.
xwowsersx 4y ago
His prior fame undoubtedly helped him get off the ground, but if you think the show's success coasts purely on his earlier fame, I'm afraid to say this is a story you're telling yourself, seemingly in part, to make yourself feel better. A podcast doesn't stay relevant with a large and loyal audience unless it's actually good. To pretend like JRE is a continued success purely because he was on TV before 1) ignores the countless podcasts started by people far less famous than Rogan was when he started which have failed to take off and 2) sounds like a cynical, resentful thing you tell yourself feel better along the lines of "well, if I came from where Rogan did, I'd be just as successful." Whatever you want to say about the reasons anyone tuned in to begin with, it's transparently unfair (and betrays your own "issues") to not offer a balanced perspective which includes the need to acknowledge the obvious which is that Rogan's success just might be _also_ due to the fact that he is a good interviewer, that he has good guests on his show, that he's able to spark interesting conversations, etc. The idea that his TV stint and MMA fame makes a listenership of 12M an automatic thing is just laughable.
- guhidalg 4y ago
  Unreal this amount of effort is spent defending Joe Rogan.
  - tharne 4y ago
    Unreal this amount of hate toward a man who does not claim to be an authority on anything and happens to have a popular podcast. Don't like Rogan? Don't listen to him and leave it at that.
  - NeverFade 4y ago
    1. Attack a person incessantly. 2. Some people come to his defense. 3. "Why is there so much effort to defend this person?!"
- StrictDabbler 4y ago
  I was replying to a comment about *how small Rogan's staff is.* You appear to have missed that context and have launched into a passionate defense of his talent, behavior and personality. As a bonus you've dipped into the ad hominem well at least twice. If you think it's impressive that somebody very famous can make a podcast with only three employees, ok. Go ahead and be impressed.
oswald42 4y ago
Yes, let’s ignore he became a successful star first. That was obviously just handed to him. Success breeds success only if you have some actual ability. Otherwise he’d be a one hit wonder. At one point he really only did have as much as anyone on HN, and probably even less.
- tharne 4y ago
  Don't go ruining a perfectly good internet argument with the facts /s

choxi 4y ago

I think the overpolished and analytics-driven media personalities left a vacuum for an authentic voice to fill. Someone would have filled it, and it happened to be Joe. It’s not like someone sufficiently motivated could repeat his success trajectory, part of it is always being in the right place at the right time too.

xwowsersx 4y ago

His prior fame undoubtedly helped him get off the ground, but if you think the show's success coasts purely on his earlier fame, I'm afraid to say this is a story you're telling yourself, seemingly in part, to make yourself feel better. A podcast doesn't stay relevant with a large and loyal audience unless it's actually good. To pretend like JRE is a continued success purely because he was on TV before 1) ignores the countless podcasts started by people far less famous than Rogan was when he started which have failed to take off and 2) sounds like a cynical, resentful thing you tell yourself feel better along the lines of "well, if I came from where Rogan did, I'd be just as successful." Whatever you want to say about the reasons anyone tuned in to begin with, it's transparently unfair (and betrays your own "issues") to not offer a balanced perspective which includes the need to acknowledge the obvious which is that Rogan's success just might be _also_ due to the fact that he is a good interviewer, that he has good guests on his show, that he's able to spark interesting conversations, etc. The idea that his TV stint and MMA fame makes a listenership of 12M an automatic thing is just laughable.

guhidalg 4y ago
Unreal this amount of effort is spent defending Joe Rogan.
- tharne 4y ago
  Unreal this amount of hate toward a man who does not claim to be an authority on anything and happens to have a popular podcast. Don't like Rogan? Don't listen to him and leave it at that.
- NeverFade 4y ago
  1. Attack a person incessantly. 2. Some people come to his defense. 3. "Why is there so much effort to defend this person?!"
StrictDabbler 4y ago
I was replying to a comment about *how small Rogan's staff is.* You appear to have missed that context and have launched into a passionate defense of his talent, behavior and personality. As a bonus you've dipped into the ad hominem well at least twice. If you think it's impressive that somebody very famous can make a podcast with only three employees, ok. Go ahead and be impressed.

oswald42 4y ago

Yes, let’s ignore he became a successful star first. That was obviously just handed to him. Success breeds success only if you have some actual ability. Otherwise he’d be a one hit wonder. At one point he really only did have as much as anyone on HN, and probably even less.

tharne 4y ago
Don't go ruining a perfectly good internet argument with the facts /s