> Fewer murders aren't an example of greater liberty, they're an example of a desirable outcome that some people decide outweighs the loss of liberty. To say t

> Fewer murders aren't an example of greater liberty, they're an example of a desirable outcome that some people decide outweighs the loss of liberty. To say this another way: put everyone in a steel cage, watch your murder rate plummet. But!, hey: every life was protected.