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The US Navy sailed guided missle cruisers along and just outside Chinese waters Sunday. The headline in that case neglected to proffer that they were "heavily

The US Navy sailed guided missle cruisers along and just outside Chinese waters Sunday. The headline in that case neglected to proffer that they were "heavily armed", I guess the objective news only mentions that if they're Russian ships, not peace-seeking ships from the west. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-navy-vessels-aircraft-return-to-taiwan-strait-amid-china-fallout/ar-AA11gE9J https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-navy-vessels-aircraf...

ethagknight 4y ago
The nuance and significance might be that Russia is actively seizing another sovereign nation's territory, whereas the US is not.
- nyokodo 4y ago
  And, since they were mentioned, China/CCP really really wants to seize Taiwan.
  - MomoXenosaga 4y ago
    Technically the US supports the one China policy. It is assumed WW3 starts if that ever changes.
    - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
      Is China really going to nuke the US because the US says that it officially no longer supports the one China policy? Sure, they bluster. But that would be really stupid. "You said something I don't like, so I'm going to kill us both" level of stupid. China talks tough, but I don't think they're actually that stupid.
    - nyokodo 4y ago
      > Technically the US supports the one China policy. It is assumed WW3 starts if that ever changes. The US walks a line on Taiwan that falls far short of actual support for One China but does enough to support it that the US has a lot of room to escalate with China if the US wants to without starting WW3.
- RobotToaster 4y ago
  I guess it's convenient for your argument that the US is taking a short break from invading other sovereign nations.
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- VictorPath 4y ago
  The US is actively seizing another sovereign nation's territory, it is seizing Guantanamo in Cuba, which Cuba has requested the US leave for decades.
  - slowmovintarget 4y ago
    This is false. The U.S. leases Guantanamo Bay. It evens sends payment by check regularly, though only one has been cashed in Fidel Castro's time "by accident." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay
    - trasz 4y ago
      It doesn’t matter they pretend to pay if the rightful owners want them out.
- MomoXenosaga 4y ago
  Are you aware of Taiwan's diplomatic status? It's a real cluster fuck.

ethagknight 4y ago

The nuance and significance might be that Russia is actively seizing another sovereign nation's territory, whereas the US is not.

nyokodo 4y ago
And, since they were mentioned, China/CCP really really wants to seize Taiwan.
- MomoXenosaga 4y ago
  Technically the US supports the one China policy. It is assumed WW3 starts if that ever changes.
  - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
    Is China really going to nuke the US because the US says that it officially no longer supports the one China policy? Sure, they bluster. But that would be really stupid. "You said something I don't like, so I'm going to kill us both" level of stupid. China talks tough, but I don't think they're actually that stupid.
  - nyokodo 4y ago
    > Technically the US supports the one China policy. It is assumed WW3 starts if that ever changes. The US walks a line on Taiwan that falls far short of actual support for One China but does enough to support it that the US has a lot of room to escalate with China if the US wants to without starting WW3.
RobotToaster 4y ago
I guess it's convenient for your argument that the US is taking a short break from invading other sovereign nations.
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VictorPath 4y ago
The US is actively seizing another sovereign nation's territory, it is seizing Guantanamo in Cuba, which Cuba has requested the US leave for decades.
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  This is false. The U.S. leases Guantanamo Bay. It evens sends payment by check regularly, though only one has been cashed in Fidel Castro's time "by accident." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay
  - trasz 4y ago
    It doesn’t matter they pretend to pay if the rightful owners want them out.
MomoXenosaga 4y ago
Are you aware of Taiwan's diplomatic status? It's a real cluster fuck.