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Exactly, instead of treating climate change as an apocalyptic event, the entire world need to band together and tackle this unique challenge. We can enable this

Exactly, instead of treating climate change as an apocalyptic event, the entire world need to band together and tackle this unique challenge. We can enable this by spreading education and awareness, and do our part to slow down climate change.

88840-8855 4y ago
Yeah.. unfortunately we still fight about some piece of land and who should rule over it: one corrupt country or another corrupt country. It will not work. But nevertheless, I agee, we must stop pretending that life will end and we must stop run around like headless chicken pretending we COULD stop it IF. We wont stop it, we might slow it down, but it is already here and it will hit us harder as nobody is going to sacrifice his wealth for it. We must stop finding solutions for how to deal with it.
- c1sc0 4y ago
  We can absolutely stop it. But it requires a geo-engineering approach that still is too much of a taboo. Solar radiation management gives us a “pause” button that buys us time to get our shot together. Iron fertilization is another approach. Geo-engineering does not take trillions of dollars. It’s well within reach of a single billionaire for the case solar irradiation and of a dedicated group of millionaires for iron fertilization.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    The problem with geo engineering is that we can't beta test it on a planetary scale, and if it goes wrong / has side effects, there's no planet B.
- progman32 4y ago
  The pointless power struggles will continue as they always have. Of course, this does not absolve us of the responsibility to help find a solution or at the very least support those who do so.
progman32 4y ago
Yes. Normalize caring. Reading comments across the internet, I get the distinct impression that people would prefer to see the world completely collapse vs. accept that the next couple hundred years will be tough but survivable (as a species), requiring collective sacrifice. I suppose the former outcome is aesthetically "cleaner" or is somehow pleasingly poetic. Perhaps it's just fashionable to care even less than your friends. No. Our past collective actions will cost the lives of millions, perhaps billions of people in the coming centuries. But this isn't justification for giving up. Get involved. Do not go silently. Here's a possibly encouraging data point. When I announced I'd be leaving my 9-year tenure as a dev at a (non-climate-related) software company to go back to school so I will more effectively contribute to the climate effort, I got universal encouragement. From within the company as well as from outside. People _do_ care.
- bruce511 4y ago
  Everyone "cares" to some degree, as long as their own habits and life-style are not affected. It costs me nothing to congratulate you on your effort, and I'm glad you're doing something - that's less responsibility on me. I think everyone else should get an EV or ride a bicycle, thus leaving me to drive my 8 cylinder muscle car. OK, I'm being cynical for effect, but I see this hypocrisy all day long. "I'm all for your change, as long as the change doesn't affect me." We should, but won't, collectively act on climate. Because the rich countries have too much to lose. And the rich and powerful in those countries have too much to lose. In the US, one of the biggest contributers to climate change, it has become a political issue. There's a reason the US exited the Paris Accords. To be clear, I think we should act, individually and collectively. I applaud you for setting an example. But I dont believe we _will_ act. The coming change is inevitable.
sofixa 4y ago
> Exactly, instead of treating climate change as an apocalyptic event, the entire world need to band together and tackle this unique challenge The same could be said about the pandemic we just went through, and it appears many are simply incapable of banding together.

88840-8855 4y ago

Yeah.. unfortunately we still fight about some piece of land and who should rule over it: one corrupt country or another corrupt country. It will not work. But nevertheless, I agee, we must stop pretending that life will end and we must stop run around like headless chicken pretending we COULD stop it IF. We wont stop it, we might slow it down, but it is already here and it will hit us harder as nobody is going to sacrifice his wealth for it. We must stop finding solutions for how to deal with it.

c1sc0 4y ago
We can absolutely stop it. But it requires a geo-engineering approach that still is too much of a taboo. Solar radiation management gives us a “pause” button that buys us time to get our shot together. Iron fertilization is another approach. Geo-engineering does not take trillions of dollars. It’s well within reach of a single billionaire for the case solar irradiation and of a dedicated group of millionaires for iron fertilization.
- sofixa 4y ago
  The problem with geo engineering is that we can't beta test it on a planetary scale, and if it goes wrong / has side effects, there's no planet B.
progman32 4y ago
The pointless power struggles will continue as they always have. Of course, this does not absolve us of the responsibility to help find a solution or at the very least support those who do so.

progman32 4y ago

Yes. Normalize caring. Reading comments across the internet, I get the distinct impression that people would prefer to see the world completely collapse vs. accept that the next couple hundred years will be tough but survivable (as a species), requiring collective sacrifice. I suppose the former outcome is aesthetically "cleaner" or is somehow pleasingly poetic. Perhaps it's just fashionable to care even less than your friends. No. Our past collective actions will cost the lives of millions, perhaps billions of people in the coming centuries. But this isn't justification for giving up. Get involved. Do not go silently. Here's a possibly encouraging data point. When I announced I'd be leaving my 9-year tenure as a dev at a (non-climate-related) software company to go back to school so I will more effectively contribute to the climate effort, I got universal encouragement. From within the company as well as from outside. People _do_ care.

bruce511 4y ago
Everyone "cares" to some degree, as long as their own habits and life-style are not affected. It costs me nothing to congratulate you on your effort, and I'm glad you're doing something - that's less responsibility on me. I think everyone else should get an EV or ride a bicycle, thus leaving me to drive my 8 cylinder muscle car. OK, I'm being cynical for effect, but I see this hypocrisy all day long. "I'm all for your change, as long as the change doesn't affect me." We should, but won't, collectively act on climate. Because the rich countries have too much to lose. And the rich and powerful in those countries have too much to lose. In the US, one of the biggest contributers to climate change, it has become a political issue. There's a reason the US exited the Paris Accords. To be clear, I think we should act, individually and collectively. I applaud you for setting an example. But I dont believe we _will_ act. The coming change is inevitable.

sofixa 4y ago

> Exactly, instead of treating climate change as an apocalyptic event, the entire world need to band together and tackle this unique challenge The same could be said about the pandemic we just went through, and it appears many are simply incapable of banding together.