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FSFs reasoning: 1. it's proprietary 2. copilot is for-profit 3. GitHub's Contract with ICE 4. their entire hosting site is, itself, proprietary and/or trade
by masukomi 4y ago
FSFs reasoning:
1. it's proprietary
2. copilot is for-profit
3. GitHub's Contract with ICE
4. their entire hosting site is, itself, proprietary and/or trade-secret software
5. GitHub does not even offer any self-hosting FOSS option.
6. GitHub has long sought to discredit copyleft generally.
7. GitHub is wholly owned by Microsoft, a company whose executives have historically repeatedly attacked copyleft licensing.
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Thoughts regarding those
1. i'm not a religious zealot. I'm not opposed to people making proprietary software. I'm not opposed to using proprietary software.
2. see my comment on 1. Also, even if you disagree with the license violation bs that it does, not using github won't stop it. If everyone abandon's github, a) GitLab will fill in the gap b) CoPilot or its successor will just start trawling every public git repo it can find instead of just the ones on GitHub. This will happen eventually anyway so any argument against CoPilot is unaffected (long term) by abandoning github.
3. Valid. Honestly, i thought they'd abandoned that.
4. same as 1
5. duh, because 1
6. uh... say what? They couldn't exist without it.
7. And have since changed their tune and fully embraced it.
- smegsicle 4y agoembrace was always part of their tune
- masukomi 4y agosure, but in the context of opensource embracing makes everyone stronger and hampers their ability to "extinguish" (embrace -> extend -> extinguish). I'm not saying ms wasn't bad historically, but we need to judge them based on their current (years now) actions within OpenSource and so far, they seem to have really gotten it and been doing the right thing for the community in ways that aren't going to screw us. (setting aside teh very complicated morality of copilot)