I agree the terms have become pointless. I have been thinking about opening an actual school for DevOps, or at least IT Ops. There is virtually no education for

I agree the terms have become pointless. I have been thinking about opening an actual school for DevOps, or at least IT Ops. There is virtually no education for it, but it's a complex subject matter that requires years of experience. The SRE books are a peek under the covers but leave so much unsaid that it's really only useful at "doing operations", not digital transformation. To properly build and run a high-performing organization, you need to understand at least 1) the entire history (up to today) of software development practice and production operations, 2) all of the competing requirements of product design, development, and operation, 3) architectural best practices, 4) the industry standards that apply to the work, and 5) tech product-aligned business management methods. Basically you need a generalist who has 15+ years experience and has tried and failed at everything under the sun. I think of it like carpentry before there was a building code, and before the introduction of apprentices and licenses. Trying to build high-performance orgs without a master builder to show you is like trying to build skyscrapers after having built your own home (and having never seen a skyscraper). Or worse, taking an old barn (non-tech enterprise) and trying to build a skyscraper out of that. Without a trade school it will continue to be just a craft.