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It's funny because you spell out a use case that can represent undeniable progress: artificial porn. Porn with no component of human suffering, yet realistic an

by epups 4y ago

It's funny because you spell out a use case that can represent undeniable progress: artificial porn. Porn with no component of human suffering, yet realistic and personalized. A dream product, no doubt. By what metric is this not progress, except a puritanical/religious one? Moreover, sexuality is perhaps the most important theme in art, historically. It is a very legitimate thing to want to include in a tool such as this one. Its censorship is akin to "moral codes" of the past, completely regressive.

deanCommie 4y ago
I'm not as sure that artificial porn is undeniable progress. While I am entirely pro liberty in terms of consumption of pornography, it is not a replacement for human interaction, and can be used in conjunction with other tools to dehumanize and isolate individuals. Some individuals that then make negative contributions to the rest of society at large. These are not isolated incidents, and they've been rising: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism There are many kinds of porn - some that exploit women, some that empower them in their production. And there are also many kinds of products - ones that focus on a human connection (whether vanilla or kinky) and ones that don't. I would absolutely worry that artificial porn would be good enough to meet some of these demands but not most, and would ultimately be a net negative for society. > Moreover, sexuality is perhaps the most important theme in art, historically. I mean, it's demonstrably not, religious art imagery dominates by volume. But that's also not necessarily important - that's just who happened to be patrons of arts and had the means to commission them. I'm not gonna deny that humans are horny and want to make lots of sexy art. But you're also not going to get porn on basic cable. You have to seek that out extra for yourself, and that's going to be the case with AI-generated porn art also.

by epups 4y ago

deanCommie 4y ago

I'm not as sure that artificial porn is undeniable progress. While I am entirely pro liberty in terms of consumption of pornography, it is not a replacement for human interaction, and can be used in conjunction with other tools to dehumanize and isolate individuals. Some individuals that then make negative contributions to the rest of society at large. These are not isolated incidents, and they've been rising: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism There are many kinds of porn - some that exploit women, some that empower them in their production. And there are also many kinds of products - ones that focus on a human connection (whether vanilla or kinky) and ones that don't. I would absolutely worry that artificial porn would be good enough to meet some of these demands but not most, and would ultimately be a net negative for society. > Moreover, sexuality is perhaps the most important theme in art, historically. I mean, it's demonstrably not, religious art imagery dominates by volume. But that's also not necessarily important - that's just who happened to be patrons of arts and had the means to commission them. I'm not gonna deny that humans are horny and want to make lots of sexy art. But you're also not going to get porn on basic cable. You have to seek that out extra for yourself, and that's going to be the case with AI-generated porn art also.