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This is wrong and out-of-date for multiple reasons. 1. Corporate spending in politics has had negligible impact after Citizens United: https://www.nber.org/pap

This is wrong and out-of-date for multiple reasons. 1. Corporate spending in politics has had negligible impact after Citizens United: https://www.nber.org/papers/w30352 https://www.nber.org/papers/w30352 2. These days, the ostensibly pro-business party(GOP) gets more of its money from individuals and SME donors than the Democratic party. Your real problem is public opinion itself. The public in America simply trusts corporations over government institutions(except maybe the military). David Shor has great(but damning for progressives) analyses of this phenomenon.

jacobolus 4y ago
Hint: when you say “Democrat party” rather than "Democratic Party" you are giving away your game too easily. This is what GOP partisans call the party as an intentional slight. The only ordinary people I ever hear use this name are those who habitually watch Fox News.
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- jefftk 4y ago
  Context and history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
  - jmeister 4y ago
    I didn’t know the history behind the pejorative usage. Thanks for pointing out. EDIT: I'm a recentish immigrant, so help me out with this inconsistency: Why Democrats and not Democratics? Why Republicans and not Republics?
    - pc86 4y ago
      Democrat is a noun, Democratic is an adjective. Republican is both (depending on context). "Republican" and "Democratic" are modifying the noun "Party" when referring to the political organizations, so you use the adjective in those cases.
      - jmeister 4y ago
        Thanks!
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
  There is no game to be given away, this is not sports and these are not teams to be cheered for or jeered against. The modern version of the Godwin's law is people bringing up dog-whistling in a conversation.
- peteradio 4y ago
  And yet Democrat's party or party of Democrats is entirely correct. How exactly is it supposed to be interpreted as a slight in this day and age?
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- jwond 4y ago
  Seems like tilting at windmills to me. Republicans are members of the Republican party Democrats are members of the Democrat party
dnissley 4y ago
Ironically the above take about money in politics is so popular that the narrative around it is basically impossible to change at this point (at least among people left of center). I don't think any amount of evidence could change most people's minds, and I've tried many times.
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lbwtaylor 4y ago
While the article you cite does not identify changes to US state taxation, in this period we've had an incredible reduction in corporate taxation at the federal level, so I'm not sure I find the research paper convincing for the larger point being discussed.
germinalphrase 4y ago
Your NBER resource is specific only to the impact of corporate spending on state-level tax policy, not "politics" writ large.

jacobolus 4y ago

Hint: when you say “Democrat party” rather than "Democratic Party" you are giving away your game too easily. This is what GOP partisans call the party as an intentional slight. The only ordinary people I ever hear use this name are those who habitually watch Fox News.

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jefftk 4y ago
Context and history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
- jmeister 4y ago
  I didn’t know the history behind the pejorative usage. Thanks for pointing out. EDIT: I'm a recentish immigrant, so help me out with this inconsistency: Why Democrats and not Democratics? Why Republicans and not Republics?
  - pc86 4y ago
    Democrat is a noun, Democratic is an adjective. Republican is both (depending on context). "Republican" and "Democratic" are modifying the noun "Party" when referring to the political organizations, so you use the adjective in those cases.
    - jmeister 4y ago
      Thanks!
ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
There is no game to be given away, this is not sports and these are not teams to be cheered for or jeered against. The modern version of the Godwin's law is people bringing up dog-whistling in a conversation.
peteradio 4y ago
And yet Democrat's party or party of Democrats is entirely correct. How exactly is it supposed to be interpreted as a slight in this day and age?
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jwond 4y ago
Seems like tilting at windmills to me. Republicans are members of the Republican party Democrats are members of the Democrat party

dnissley 4y ago

Ironically the above take about money in politics is so popular that the narrative around it is basically impossible to change at this point (at least among people left of center). I don't think any amount of evidence could change most people's minds, and I've tried many times.

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lbwtaylor 4y ago

While the article you cite does not identify changes to US state taxation, in this period we've had an incredible reduction in corporate taxation at the federal level, so I'm not sure I find the research paper convincing for the larger point being discussed.

germinalphrase 4y ago

Your NBER resource is specific only to the impact of corporate spending on state-level tax policy, not "politics" writ large.