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Hi. I greet someone then ask the question in the same message. No extra messages, but no appearance of rudeness or inconsideration of the other person. If this

Hi. I greet someone then ask the question in the same message. No extra messages, but no appearance of rudeness or inconsideration of the other person. If this is what you're doing and your boss was still upset, your boss was I think unreasonable. If you just jumped straight to the question, your boss from their point of view had a valid point.

dymk 4y ago
No, boss was being unreasonable. There’s no need to e-greet someone you talk to every day over slack. It’s a weird power play from a superior.
- fragmede 4y ago
  There’s no need to post on this website either but we do it anyway. Greetings are just the polite thing to do. it recognizes that we’re not automatons and have lives outside of work.
  - zamadatix 4y ago
    We make the decision to post here, not our managers. Prescribing these sorts of rituals from a position of power is going to do a lot more to make automatons than forced greetings are going to undo. If recognizing life outside work is really a cultural issue then encourage change around that and make it interactive instead of prescribing only your view. It'll come out better for everyone and it's exceedingly unlikely to come to exactly what one person was thinking it should be like.
  - stronglikedan 4y ago
    I would imagine if you analyzed all HN comment replies, only a fraction of a percent would begin with a greeting of any sort. It is unreasonable for anyone to get upset for omission of such a rarity, especially in the context of Slack messages.
    - cestith 4y ago
      I agree except a forum is a different medium from Slack DMs. This is an ongoing exchange of specific, topical sorts of information. It's much closer to a Slack channel than to DMs. DMs are a personal, often interruptive direct request for a particular person's attention and time. Some sort of interpersonal acknowledgement and appreciation of the other person's effort and time is pretty common in polite society.
    - AlwaysRock 4y ago
      Absolutely. It's very odd to great people online unless the thread is specifically for introductions or something like that.
  - AlwaysRock 4y ago
    Right. But what is hi worth? When the robot voice on the phone says hi before it gives me information I don't feel closer to that robot. I just want the information. The hi is a waste of time.
AlwaysRock 4y ago
Why? Hi. Can you forward me the email from X you mentioned last night? or Can you forward me the email from X you mentioned last night? Is the first really ANY better? It just seems silly. If I was in the office I wouldnt say hi first.
- cestith 4y ago
  Saying things like "hello" or "good morning" to colleagues the first time you talk to them in a day is in many places a social convention. If you find social conventions silly, they aren't necessarily any less real. Think of them as a protocol for communicating data with other carbon-based life forms of the human model range.
  - AlwaysRock 4y ago
    Right but what does Hi add? Do you say bye at the end of the day? Some people do. I think its weird but some people do it. So at what level of saturation does some silly social convention like saying hi being required before sending an additional message become the expectation vs being something some people do and some people dont?

dymk 4y ago

No, boss was being unreasonable. There’s no need to e-greet someone you talk to every day over slack. It’s a weird power play from a superior.

fragmede 4y ago
There’s no need to post on this website either but we do it anyway. Greetings are just the polite thing to do. it recognizes that we’re not automatons and have lives outside of work.
- zamadatix 4y ago
  We make the decision to post here, not our managers. Prescribing these sorts of rituals from a position of power is going to do a lot more to make automatons than forced greetings are going to undo. If recognizing life outside work is really a cultural issue then encourage change around that and make it interactive instead of prescribing only your view. It'll come out better for everyone and it's exceedingly unlikely to come to exactly what one person was thinking it should be like.
- stronglikedan 4y ago
  I would imagine if you analyzed all HN comment replies, only a fraction of a percent would begin with a greeting of any sort. It is unreasonable for anyone to get upset for omission of such a rarity, especially in the context of Slack messages.
  - cestith 4y ago
    I agree except a forum is a different medium from Slack DMs. This is an ongoing exchange of specific, topical sorts of information. It's much closer to a Slack channel than to DMs. DMs are a personal, often interruptive direct request for a particular person's attention and time. Some sort of interpersonal acknowledgement and appreciation of the other person's effort and time is pretty common in polite society.
  - AlwaysRock 4y ago
    Absolutely. It's very odd to great people online unless the thread is specifically for introductions or something like that.
- AlwaysRock 4y ago
  Right. But what is hi worth? When the robot voice on the phone says hi before it gives me information I don't feel closer to that robot. I just want the information. The hi is a waste of time.

AlwaysRock 4y ago

Why? Hi. Can you forward me the email from X you mentioned last night? or Can you forward me the email from X you mentioned last night? Is the first really ANY better? It just seems silly. If I was in the office I wouldnt say hi first.

cestith 4y ago
Saying things like "hello" or "good morning" to colleagues the first time you talk to them in a day is in many places a social convention. If you find social conventions silly, they aren't necessarily any less real. Think of them as a protocol for communicating data with other carbon-based life forms of the human model range.
- AlwaysRock 4y ago
  Right but what does Hi add? Do you say bye at the end of the day? Some people do. I think its weird but some people do it. So at what level of saturation does some silly social convention like saying hi being required before sending an additional message become the expectation vs being something some people do and some people dont?