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I think it will likely cost under $10 million. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/11/elon-musk-spacexs-starship-is-solution-to-efficient-space-travel.html https://ww

by btilly 4y ago

I think it will likely cost under $10 million. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/11/elon-musk-spacexs-starship-is-solution-to-efficient-space-travel.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/11/elon-musk-spacexs-starship-i... Do you have a source behind your estimate that a fully reusable Starship launch is over 20x the cost of a partially reusable Falcon 9 launch?

sashahrzg 4y ago
Yes and full self driving will be ready late next year. Elon musk is a liar about everything he works on. The launch cost will not reach 10 million until later into the program, with the 1 million dollar launch cost estimate being a fallacy. Launch costs for the first 5 rockets will be massive.
- btilly 4y ago
  In other words you don't have a source other than your confidence that Musk is a liar?
- terafo 4y ago
  Where these massive launch costs are coming from? All Starship's Raptor V2 engines COMBINED cost less than refurbishment of ONE RS-25 engine. There are four RS-25 engines on SLS.
- baq 4y ago
  doubters had a major goalpost moving moment the first time spacex landed a falcon 9 booster. then they had another when they landed on a barge. a much smaller one when fairings were recovered. if starship misses the cost by 5x it'll still be cheaper to launch than everything other than a recoverable falcon 9 and will completely dominate all aspects of space launch business (except non-US national security payloads).
gmiller123456 4y ago
I certainly would not consider Musk a reliable source.
- Isinlor 4y ago
  SpaceX is contracted to deliver people to the Moon surface for 2.8 billion dollars total (development + actual mission). To do it they need around 6 launches for refueling in orbit. The very upper limit on a single Starship launch is 0.5 billion (2.8/6).
  - zardo 4y ago
    The upper limit, with the assumption they don't lose money on the contract.

by btilly 4y ago

sashahrzg 4y ago

Yes and full self driving will be ready late next year. Elon musk is a liar about everything he works on. The launch cost will not reach 10 million until later into the program, with the 1 million dollar launch cost estimate being a fallacy. Launch costs for the first 5 rockets will be massive.

btilly 4y ago
In other words you don't have a source other than your confidence that Musk is a liar?
terafo 4y ago
Where these massive launch costs are coming from? All Starship's Raptor V2 engines COMBINED cost less than refurbishment of ONE RS-25 engine. There are four RS-25 engines on SLS.
baq 4y ago
doubters had a major goalpost moving moment the first time spacex landed a falcon 9 booster. then they had another when they landed on a barge. a much smaller one when fairings were recovered. if starship misses the cost by 5x it'll still be cheaper to launch than everything other than a recoverable falcon 9 and will completely dominate all aspects of space launch business (except non-US national security payloads).

gmiller123456 4y ago

I certainly would not consider Musk a reliable source.

Isinlor 4y ago
SpaceX is contracted to deliver people to the Moon surface for 2.8 billion dollars total (development + actual mission). To do it they need around 6 launches for refueling in orbit. The very upper limit on a single Starship launch is 0.5 billion (2.8/6).
- zardo 4y ago
  The upper limit, with the assumption they don't lose money on the contract.