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It's incredible how fast websites load with this combination. I recall reading that despite the internet being faster, actual website performance has never rea

by quitit 4y ago

It's incredible how fast websites load with this combination. I recall reading that despite the internet being faster, actual website performance has never really improved meaningfully. Whatever speed gains we've achieved have simply been eaten by larger and more complex tracking scripts. Google themselves are a significant contributor to this problem, for many websites, Google's scripts are the core source of slowness. I don't think it's unreasonable for users to want to reclaim their browsing experience (and bandwidth). In the sample comparison below we can see savings as high as 90% of data and speed boosts of ~1500% - it's insanity. https://twitter.com/fr3ino/status/1000166112615714816 https://twitter.com/fr3ino/status/1000166112615714816

broguinn 4y ago
I recently learned about 'Jevons Paradox': >In 1865, the English economist William Stanley Jevons observed that technological improvements that increased the efficiency of coal-use led to the increased consumption of coal in a wide range of industries. He argued that, contrary to common intuition, technological progress could not be relied upon to reduce fuel consumption. Which is a criticism, it seems, for any system that values resource attribution over efficiency.
- fvrghl 4y ago
  Is that basically the same as induced demand? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand
  - broguinn 4y ago
    I very cursory read seems to say yes. The biggest difference I see is that Jevons paradox is paradoxical because of the intent to increase efficiency (eg. make pages load faster, reduce the amount of coal needed, etc).
firecall 4y ago
Since ADSL1 the web has felt much the same. Of course there was flash to deal with rhen too. Now back when we had 56K Modems was when it really was unusable! I don't how sites think i want to read an article and warxh a totally unrelated video at the same time. I'm really starting to miss old style magazines lately. Click bait and fake headlines about the next iphone have ruinwd the web.
- adolph 4y ago
  We didn't know what a good thing we had with 36.6 and Lynx or Gopher
- connicpu 4y ago
  The jump up to 5mbps down was the last time I felt like upgrading my internet made the web a noticeably better experience, it was incredible to be able to watch videos at an okay quality without pausing for buffering. Everything else has been only incremental improvements that have been eaten up by increasing inefficiency, and my only gains have been higher resolution video streams and faster video game downloads (also offset by massively larger video games...)
  - quitit 4y ago
    It becomes most noticeable for me when my phone can only get 3G or lower. Once upon a time this was enough to pull up a variety of web pages without too much wait, but now it might as well be no connection at all.

by quitit 4y ago

broguinn 4y ago

I recently learned about 'Jevons Paradox': >In 1865, the English economist William Stanley Jevons observed that technological improvements that increased the efficiency of coal-use led to the increased consumption of coal in a wide range of industries. He argued that, contrary to common intuition, technological progress could not be relied upon to reduce fuel consumption. Which is a criticism, it seems, for any system that values resource attribution over efficiency.

fvrghl 4y ago
Is that basically the same as induced demand? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand
- broguinn 4y ago
  I very cursory read seems to say yes. The biggest difference I see is that Jevons paradox is paradoxical because of the intent to increase efficiency (eg. make pages load faster, reduce the amount of coal needed, etc).

firecall 4y ago

Since ADSL1 the web has felt much the same. Of course there was flash to deal with rhen too. Now back when we had 56K Modems was when it really was unusable! I don't how sites think i want to read an article and warxh a totally unrelated video at the same time. I'm really starting to miss old style magazines lately. Click bait and fake headlines about the next iphone have ruinwd the web.

adolph 4y ago
We didn't know what a good thing we had with 36.6 and Lynx or Gopher
connicpu 4y ago
The jump up to 5mbps down was the last time I felt like upgrading my internet made the web a noticeably better experience, it was incredible to be able to watch videos at an okay quality without pausing for buffering. Everything else has been only incremental improvements that have been eaten up by increasing inefficiency, and my only gains have been higher resolution video streams and faster video game downloads (also offset by massively larger video games...)
- quitit 4y ago
  It becomes most noticeable for me when my phone can only get 3G or lower. Once upon a time this was enough to pull up a variety of web pages without too much wait, but now it might as well be no connection at all.