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We've been hearing this for years now, though. And we've seen SwiftUI takedowns on here before, a year or more ago, and even then SwiftUI wasn't exactly new. M

We've been hearing this for years now, though. And we've seen SwiftUI takedowns on here before, a year or more ago, and even then SwiftUI wasn't exactly new. Meanwhile, my team has built an entire cross-platform desktop app in Qt with QML, which has been around for years and works refreshingly well. You're telling us that Apple, starting fresh and with several years under its belt now, still hasn't gotten its shit together with SwiftUI? And the word is that nobody at Apple even understands how Xcode works at this point. It's a patched-together shitshow that desperately needs a ground-up rewrite... but we all know how those go. Remember the "ground-up rewrite" of Finder we were promised several major OS releases ago? Still waiting.

KerrAvon 4y ago
What “word”? What “ground-up rewrite”? Do you really believe everything you read on the internet?
- NonNefarious 4y ago
  Or that I heard while working as an engineer at Apple for 10 years. WHOOPS
  - lapcat 4y ago
    > Or that I heard while working as an engineer at Apple for 10 years. This seems extremely unlikely given your other uninformed comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32650545 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32650545
    - NonNefarious 4y ago
lapcat 4y ago
> Remember the "ground-up rewrite" of Finder we were promised several major OS releases ago? No? I've never heard of this. Do you have any citation for such a promise?
- NonNefarious 4y ago
  It was promised or expected for Snow Leopard apparently. Wired: https://www.wired.com/2008/10/rumor-apple-s-finder-app-to-get-cocoa-rewrite-for-snow-leopard/ https://www.wired.com/2008/10/rumor-apple-s-finder-app-to-ge... Ars Tecnica: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=99890&start=80 https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=99890&sta... Also a quick search found this guy referring to it in 2009: "I have always wished that I could change both the font and spacing between both sections and items. I was really hoping this would be possible with the rewrite of finder in SL 10.6." https://macmost.com/forum/resizing-the-sidebar-font-in-finder.html https://macmost.com/forum/resizing-the-sidebar-font-in-finde...
  - lapcat 4y ago
    This already happened. Finder was ported from Carbon to Cocoa many years ago. Carbon is now gone from macOS. Carbon died in the 32-bit to 64-bit transition.
    - NonNefarious 4y ago
      And Finder is still shit. Shocker.

KerrAvon 4y ago

What “word”? What “ground-up rewrite”? Do you really believe everything you read on the internet?

NonNefarious 4y ago
Or that I heard while working as an engineer at Apple for 10 years. WHOOPS
- lapcat 4y ago
  > Or that I heard while working as an engineer at Apple for 10 years. This seems extremely unlikely given your other uninformed comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32650545 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32650545
  - NonNefarious 4y ago

lapcat 4y ago

> Remember the "ground-up rewrite" of Finder we were promised several major OS releases ago? No? I've never heard of this. Do you have any citation for such a promise?

NonNefarious 4y ago
It was promised or expected for Snow Leopard apparently. Wired: https://www.wired.com/2008/10/rumor-apple-s-finder-app-to-get-cocoa-rewrite-for-snow-leopard/ https://www.wired.com/2008/10/rumor-apple-s-finder-app-to-ge... Ars Tecnica: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=99890&start=80 https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=99890&sta... Also a quick search found this guy referring to it in 2009: "I have always wished that I could change both the font and spacing between both sections and items. I was really hoping this would be possible with the rewrite of finder in SL 10.6." https://macmost.com/forum/resizing-the-sidebar-font-in-finder.html https://macmost.com/forum/resizing-the-sidebar-font-in-finde...
- lapcat 4y ago
  This already happened. Finder was ported from Carbon to Cocoa many years ago. Carbon is now gone from macOS. Carbon died in the 32-bit to 64-bit transition.
  - NonNefarious 4y ago
    And Finder is still shit. Shocker.