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It's still amazing to me that people care about low-level details of their Linux system, like PipeWire. Personally, I'll use PipeWire when the most popular dist
by phendrenad2 4y ago
It's still amazing to me that people care about low-level details of their Linux system, like PipeWire. Personally, I'll use PipeWire when the most popular distro switches to it (which is Ubuntu). (If Ubuntu is already using PipeWire, good! Don't tell me. I don't want to know.) This is my act of rebellion against the Linux community, in hopes that my act of obstinance will help bring about a truly Windows-like Linux environment.
- CameronNemo 4y agoI mean I didn't care about X11 until I used Wayland and realized that I didn't just have to deal with screen tearing. To get screen sharing to work on most Wayland systems, you do need Pipewire. So I learned enough to set it up. And then I learned enough to tune it for my audio recording use cases. Which wasn't actually that much work.
- brnt 4y agoI'm using X11 and I haven't seen screen tearing since the augths. I do see frequent Wayland hangs, weirdly indepdent of hardware and distro... Agree with OP, these things don't really interest me either. I did try Pipewire; is worked as well as PulseAudio for me. The most complicated thing I do is use connect Bluetooth headphones every now and then.
- p_l 4y agoThat's because the reality is that screen tearing happens due to hw changes in certain GPUs and not X11, and Wayland compositors dumb down the GPU interface that they need to synchronize in userspace anyway and thus lack of sync logic in intel gpus doesn't cause tearing anymore.
- Zardoz84 4y agoEvery time that I Try Wayland, I always get really annoying bugs. Including one that puts black both of my screens and I only can do it's a REISUB. I would keep yet on X11, that on my case works better.
- R0flcopt3r 4y agoWhat does "Windows-like Linux environment" mean to you?
- tonoto 4y agoBut why would anyone running Linux even desire a Windows-like Linux environment? Is not "rebellion", to me it sounds rather fanatic.
- jraph 4y agoPeople might like some or most characteristics of Windows but want software freedom. I do mainly use Linux for its free software aspect, not for its technical aspects or its UX. It also happens to be the OS I like best, luckily.
- phendrenad2 4y agoWhy are you trying to shame me for wanting what I want?
- jraph 4y agoNobody forces you to care though. Especially if everything works for you. And there are people who are interested in how their systems work, why should they not?
- phendrenad2 4y agoIt's just surprising to me. Really makes you think, you know?
- jraph 4y agoI understand what you mean.
- effie 4y agoThis site is called Hacker News - hackers are people who like to understand how things work and tweak/subvert them to their purposes. Are you here by accident?