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What evidence do you have that they will be able to live "lavish" lifestyles after their release? How do you feel that the US government has imprisoned people f

What evidence do you have that they will be able to live "lavish" lifestyles after their release? How do you feel that the US government has imprisoned people for 20 years without trial? How do you know they are guilty of anything without a trial which provides evidence to that claim?

googlryas 4y ago
Actually, it's only the convicted that get to live lavish lifestyles. Like Omar Khadr, who was actually convicted of a crime unlike everyone else in this article, but he eventually got released and $10M from the Canadian government. It doesn't make sense that the only people who have been convicted of terrorism are the ones that are released the earliest.
- sofixa 4y ago
  His conviction doesn't hold up because it was on the basis of a confession after torture. Not to mention that the alleged "crime" (you don't murder soldiers in a combat zone, that's ridiculous) It's less than meaningless, because as it did happen, all sorts of rights of his were violated to get there, so he was due apologies and restitutions.
  - googlryas 4y ago
    It seems like everyone was tortured at Guantanamo...why were so few convicted then? Also there is no dispute that Omar threw the grenade that killed soldiers.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      > Also there is no dispute that Omar threw the grenade that killed soldiers There isn't, but how is that murder? You said it yourself, soldiers, in a war zone, killing them is not murder. The US case is not only built on rotten foundations (torture), it doesn't even make sense. > It seems like everyone was tortured at Guantanamo...why were so few convicted then Because torture was less than useless in most cases, but gave "enough", apparently, for some convictions like Omar's to be pushed through on the vain hope that the torture won't come up and ruin the conviction. That didn't stop the sick fucks at the CIA from continuing the torture for quite some time. Everyone from them up to the White House inhabitants at the time deserves at the very least a trial and some jail time.
      - googlryas 4y ago
        Omar was accused of war crimes, not merely murder. Specifically, he was charged with murder and attempted murder in violation of the laws of war, conspiracy to commit terrorism, providing material support for terrorism, and spying. So torture is less than useless in most cases, but it also helped secure a conviction against Khadr. Which is it? Why didn't torture help secure a conviction against everyone else at Guantanamo?

googlryas 4y ago

Actually, it's only the convicted that get to live lavish lifestyles. Like Omar Khadr, who was actually convicted of a crime unlike everyone else in this article, but he eventually got released and $10M from the Canadian government. It doesn't make sense that the only people who have been convicted of terrorism are the ones that are released the earliest.

sofixa 4y ago
His conviction doesn't hold up because it was on the basis of a confession after torture. Not to mention that the alleged "crime" (you don't murder soldiers in a combat zone, that's ridiculous) It's less than meaningless, because as it did happen, all sorts of rights of his were violated to get there, so he was due apologies and restitutions.
- googlryas 4y ago
  It seems like everyone was tortured at Guantanamo...why were so few convicted then? Also there is no dispute that Omar threw the grenade that killed soldiers.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    > Also there is no dispute that Omar threw the grenade that killed soldiers There isn't, but how is that murder? You said it yourself, soldiers, in a war zone, killing them is not murder. The US case is not only built on rotten foundations (torture), it doesn't even make sense. > It seems like everyone was tortured at Guantanamo...why were so few convicted then Because torture was less than useless in most cases, but gave "enough", apparently, for some convictions like Omar's to be pushed through on the vain hope that the torture won't come up and ruin the conviction. That didn't stop the sick fucks at the CIA from continuing the torture for quite some time. Everyone from them up to the White House inhabitants at the time deserves at the very least a trial and some jail time.
    - googlryas 4y ago
      Omar was accused of war crimes, not merely murder. Specifically, he was charged with murder and attempted murder in violation of the laws of war, conspiracy to commit terrorism, providing material support for terrorism, and spying. So torture is less than useless in most cases, but it also helped secure a conviction against Khadr. Which is it? Why didn't torture help secure a conviction against everyone else at Guantanamo?