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You're not paying with your data, you're paying with the foundations of functioning society and democracy that are being algorithmically subverted by a totalita
by suggestion 4y ago
You're not paying with your data, you're paying with the foundations of functioning society and democracy that are being algorithmically subverted by a totalitarian slave state. The very things that trend on TikTok in the West are banned and filtered in China for a reason.
- angio 4y agoThat's because China has strict censorship laws while the US protects free speech. TikTok (like Meta) follows local regulations when it comes to their content.
- miguelazo 4y agolol… free speech for those who don’t rock the boat. Go ask someone in the US who criticizes Israel in any serious way how their employment prospects are going.
- anothernewdude 4y agoGo ask the buried corpses of those in China who criticize the CCP anything.
- miguelazo 4y agoUtterly ridiculous, jingoistic nonsense. This isn't the Cultural Revolution.
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- stjohnswarts 4y agoOr the ones who are tortured for years before getting dumped, half dead, on a random street corner.
- miguelazo 4y agoI suppose you have some evidence of this???
- suggestion 4y agoNo it's because TikTok is owned by the CCP and used as a tool to sow discord and subvert liberal democratic values so that it may destabilize the west and pave the way for CCP supremacy.
- angio 4y agoThat's a conspiracy theory with, so far, no confirmation.
- suggestion 4y agoWhich part is a conspiracy theory?
- angio 4y agoThat the content is promoted to create disorder. Facebook has similar issues (they're even being sued for contributing to genocide) but they were never accused of the same thing (but mostly of negligence).
- pessimizer 4y agoThis thing started with Facebook being accused of being the conduit for the stealing of the 2016 election through 100K worth of ads featuring Bernie shirtless. It's hard to remember because they got utterly bored with it eventually, and they have relatives that they brag work at Facebook.
- stjohnswarts 4y agoFacebook wasn't created to create social disorder as a first principle, it was created to be addictive and make MarkZ and crew billionaires. TikTok is being used to do something similar but it is completely designed to do that by a foreign power and use algorithms specifically to damage the psyche of westerners with distracting videos, tuning them to give just enough of a dopamine buzz to keep you there and coming back, and in general distract youth from pursuing more enlightening and educational activities while building a psychological profile on them to be filed away for future clandestine purposes. Or that's just my 5 minute take on it.
- boomboomsubban 4y agoJingoism. "Facebook may algorithmically subvert the foundations of society and democracy, but at least it's being done by a state I support."
- 1shooner 4y agoWho is defending facebook in this discussion?
- pessimizer 4y agoAnybody who isn't trying to ban it as they try to ban TikTok, unless they see a material difference in the behavior of the applications other than hypernationalism. Ban both for kids. Double ban Instagram. If nobody has planted a flag in your moral center, you'll rarely find a reason to mention TikTok by name when talking about the manipulation and surveillance that social media decided it wants to be.
- 1shooner 4y agoI have no love for facebook, but if we're talking about protecting kids from exploitative social media, it's probably beneficial to focus on platforms they actually use.
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- suggestion 4y agoIf it's jingoism to support Western enlightenment values, liberal democracy, and basic human rights, then yeah I guess I'm a jingo.
- UmbertoNoEco 4y agonone of which are exclusive to 'western' countries and even less demonstrated by the actions of the big corporations and governments zuckerberg pelosi liz truss elon musk et al are not paragons of virtue and they are the people being defended here
- ssnistfajen 4y agoThis is some peak moral panic material, mixed with a healthy dose of irrational nationalism (which was planted into your mind with intention, just a hint).
- suggestion 4y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_...
- ssnistfajen 4y agoAnd your point is?