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It identifies passengers that are not price sensitive. Price sensitive customers are subsidized in all airlines by overcharging customers that are not price se

It identifies passengers that are not price sensitive. Price sensitive customers are subsidized in all airlines by overcharging customers that are not price sensitive (e.g. business class).

tomrod 4y ago
Someone at Wizz skipped the statistics lesson on variance. There is no way an adblocker accurately identifies price sensitivity outside of qualitative handwaving.
- krisoft 4y ago
  > There is no way an adblocker accurately identifies price sensitivity outside of qualitative handwaving. Perhaps they are banking on this information becoming public knowledge, so it can become a signal? :)
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- gruez 4y ago
  Why not? It seems at least somewhat plausible that people who know about ad blockers are technically savvy and technically savvy people do better in the job market, therefore higher income and lower price sensitivity.
  - tomrod 4y ago
    Correct. Your comment is qualitative handwaving, an armchair speculation that sounds plausible. Is that enough justification to pend off eventual discrimination lawsuits? I personally doubt it. Very few companies have the analytics maturity to use A/B testing in production to prove your hand-waving assertion without the effect failing sensitivity checks. And by very few, I point to the ones that hire economists and eocnonetricians en masse as having an inkling and trying to work this out in the ad tech space.
    - gruez 4y ago
      >Correct. Your comment is qualitative handwaving, an armchair speculation that sounds plausible. As the saying goes, what is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. You rag on people for doing "qualitative handwaving" and "armchair speculation", yet you make the claim of "There is no way an adblocker accurately identifies price sensitivity" with nothing but "qualitative handwaving" and "armchair speculation". >Is that enough justification to pend off eventual discrimination lawsuits? I personally doubt it. Obviously nothing can fend off "eventual discrimination lawsuits", because anyone can sue for any reason. That said, I find it really a reach to say that discriminating based on ad-blocker status would be construed as discrimination against a protected class in a court of law. > Very few companies have the analytics maturity to use A/B testing in production to prove your hand-waving assertion without the effect failing sensitivity checks. Right, that's why I said it was plausible, not that it was a rigorously proven theory.
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    On the other hand they're flying Wizz Air which is a budget airline so they've implicitly demonstrated their price sensitivity regardless of ad-block usage.
jacquesm 4y ago
Anybody flying Wizz Air is price sensitive.
- jltsiren 4y ago
  On some routes, there are no alternatives to low-cost airlines if you want a direct flight. For example, when I flew from Prague to Milan a couple of months ago, the options were basically Wizz Air and Ryanair.
  - tomrod 4y ago
    No alternative means the outside option is to not fly, so your price sensitivity is impacted.
- WastingMyTime89 4y ago
  Most of Wizz flights are short. Most people will be price sensitive for short flights. Why pay more for what is only two to three hours in a plane?
  - lnxg33k1 4y ago
    Yeah I came home in Italy today from Netherlands it was a 2:40 hrs flight on Transavia, and I had a realisation that I don’t have the age anymore for these kind of airlines and I think I will try to find a better , larger, quieter airline and class from next holiday, it was really hard today, I had a guy next to me that would have needed 2 seats and I couldn’t find a way to seat comfortably to give him space, had to have half body outside in the middle lane , and try to fit back when someone had to pass to go to bathroom, these airlines are shrinking planes like hell and it’s becoming painful
    - InCityDreams 4y ago
      Charge fat people more?
    - brnt 4y ago

It identifies passengers that are not price sensitive. Price sensitive customers are subsidized in all airlines by overcharging customers that are not price sensitive (e.g. business class).

tomrod 4y ago

Someone at Wizz skipped the statistics lesson on variance. There is no way an adblocker accurately identifies price sensitivity outside of qualitative handwaving.

krisoft 4y ago
> There is no way an adblocker accurately identifies price sensitivity outside of qualitative handwaving. Perhaps they are banking on this information becoming public knowledge, so it can become a signal? :)
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gruez 4y ago
Why not? It seems at least somewhat plausible that people who know about ad blockers are technically savvy and technically savvy people do better in the job market, therefore higher income and lower price sensitivity.
- tomrod 4y ago
  Correct. Your comment is qualitative handwaving, an armchair speculation that sounds plausible. Is that enough justification to pend off eventual discrimination lawsuits? I personally doubt it. Very few companies have the analytics maturity to use A/B testing in production to prove your hand-waving assertion without the effect failing sensitivity checks. And by very few, I point to the ones that hire economists and eocnonetricians en masse as having an inkling and trying to work this out in the ad tech space.
  - gruez 4y ago
    >Correct. Your comment is qualitative handwaving, an armchair speculation that sounds plausible. As the saying goes, what is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. You rag on people for doing "qualitative handwaving" and "armchair speculation", yet you make the claim of "There is no way an adblocker accurately identifies price sensitivity" with nothing but "qualitative handwaving" and "armchair speculation". >Is that enough justification to pend off eventual discrimination lawsuits? I personally doubt it. Obviously nothing can fend off "eventual discrimination lawsuits", because anyone can sue for any reason. That said, I find it really a reach to say that discriminating based on ad-blocker status would be construed as discrimination against a protected class in a court of law. > Very few companies have the analytics maturity to use A/B testing in production to prove your hand-waving assertion without the effect failing sensitivity checks. Right, that's why I said it was plausible, not that it was a rigorously proven theory.
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  On the other hand they're flying Wizz Air which is a budget airline so they've implicitly demonstrated their price sensitivity regardless of ad-block usage.

jacquesm 4y ago

Anybody flying Wizz Air is price sensitive.

jltsiren 4y ago
On some routes, there are no alternatives to low-cost airlines if you want a direct flight. For example, when I flew from Prague to Milan a couple of months ago, the options were basically Wizz Air and Ryanair.
- tomrod 4y ago
  No alternative means the outside option is to not fly, so your price sensitivity is impacted.
WastingMyTime89 4y ago
Most of Wizz flights are short. Most people will be price sensitive for short flights. Why pay more for what is only two to three hours in a plane?
- lnxg33k1 4y ago
  Yeah I came home in Italy today from Netherlands it was a 2:40 hrs flight on Transavia, and I had a realisation that I don’t have the age anymore for these kind of airlines and I think I will try to find a better , larger, quieter airline and class from next holiday, it was really hard today, I had a guy next to me that would have needed 2 seats and I couldn’t find a way to seat comfortably to give him space, had to have half body outside in the middle lane , and try to fit back when someone had to pass to go to bathroom, these airlines are shrinking planes like hell and it’s becoming painful
  - InCityDreams 4y ago
    Charge fat people more?
  - brnt 4y ago