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Problem is who determines if it’s a smear campaign? The author claims it was, and I tend to believe him but I haven’t investigated. Have you? And then, how dete

by yibg 4y ago

Problem is who determines if it’s a smear campaign? The author claims it was, and I tend to believe him but I haven’t investigated. Have you? And then, how determines if it’s extreme enough to warrant some action? In the ideal world sure there would be an army of people investigating every case in detail. But then 1) Twitter becomes the arbiter of truth and 2) definitely can’t scale.

DoreenMichele 4y ago
138 journalists killed in Pakistan since 1990 https://www.dawn.com/news/1595257 https://www.dawn.com/news/1595257 At least 39 journalists killed in US due to their work...since 1937 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_i... These risk levels are not alike.
Uehreka 4y ago
Oh come the fuck on. People on HN need to get over this: At a certain point people and organizations need to stop pretending that “both sides could in theory have a point” and actually take a stand. “But what if the stand they take is opposite the one you think they should take? How would you like that?” I wouldn’t, I’d badger them to take my position. Hopefully I’d succeed, and if I didn’t, I’d join a long line of people who were right but unsuccessful. So it goes, life sucks sometimes.
- dcow 4y ago
  I don’t want communication platform organizations taking any stands anywhere ever. That sounds dystopian and horrible. Deleting these Tweets won’t change a damn thing and might even be more harmful (what if the author didn't know they were being targeted because Twitter deleted everything, then they hopped back home because Twitter made them feel safe and fuzzy, and the got detained and tortured, for instance). What will change things is people getting off their keyboards and taking stands. You cannot pwn the responsibility off on Twitter moderators. Only the truth can hide the lies.

by yibg 4y ago

DoreenMichele 4y ago

138 journalists killed in Pakistan since 1990 https://www.dawn.com/news/1595257 https://www.dawn.com/news/1595257 At least 39 journalists killed in US due to their work...since 1937 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_i... These risk levels are not alike.

Uehreka 4y ago

Oh come the fuck on. People on HN need to get over this: At a certain point people and organizations need to stop pretending that “both sides could in theory have a point” and actually take a stand. “But what if the stand they take is opposite the one you think they should take? How would you like that?” I wouldn’t, I’d badger them to take my position. Hopefully I’d succeed, and if I didn’t, I’d join a long line of people who were right but unsuccessful. So it goes, life sucks sometimes.

dcow 4y ago
I don’t want communication platform organizations taking any stands anywhere ever. That sounds dystopian and horrible. Deleting these Tweets won’t change a damn thing and might even be more harmful (what if the author didn't know they were being targeted because Twitter deleted everything, then they hopped back home because Twitter made them feel safe and fuzzy, and the got detained and tortured, for instance). What will change things is people getting off their keyboards and taking stands. You cannot pwn the responsibility off on Twitter moderators. Only the truth can hide the lies.