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If you think ER nurses are medical experts I don’t know what to say. They are medical assistants and specialists who do not prescribe medications — they do what

by svnt 4y ago

If you think ER nurses are medical experts I don’t know what to say. They are medical assistants and specialists who do not prescribe medications — they do what the doctor says.

wizofaus 4y ago
Maybe that's true in your part of the world but at least in Australia nurses play a crucial role in double checking whether medication directives/dosages actually make sense, and knowing what to do when patients have allergic reactions or appear to have been mis-prescribed certain drugs. Doctors make at most high level decisions about courses of treatment (even for chemotherapy) and rely on the experience and responsibility of nurses to ensure they're delivered safely and effectively. (Source: watching my partner do online professional competency tests. Definitely expert level knowledge required.)
- svnt 4y ago
  Yes your partner is a medical specialist. I have also had partners who were nurses. My statement is still correct. There is no such thing as a “medical expert” as the term is over broad and eg ER nurses are not required to advise patients on interactions of prescription medications. That falls to the doctor and likely pharmacist. It does not surprise me at all that a former ER nurse doesn’t know that some medication she got prescribed interacts with grapefruit juice.
  - wizofaus 4y ago
    She's a registered nurse shrug. And yes she's worked ER.
samstave 4y ago
Hi. My grandmother knows more about medicine than you will ever know, my brother was the Commander of the tenth medical wing for USAF and had over 10,000 service members and their families under his care - director of the VA and currently runs the largest hospital group in a particular state... (Timothy Dean Ballard, MD Col. USAF - if you care to fact check my bullshit) and the personal flight surgeon to the joint chiefs at the pentagon (general Shelton)... Ive built more hospitals than you have stepped in.... My aunt is the head NICU nurse at El Camino Hospital in Mountain View Ca, (the hospital of the future) one of the many hospitals I built... (el Camino, UCSF, SFGH, Sequoia, Nome, Methodist) yeah im a little closer to this subject than you may have assumed. And if you think an ER nurse "just does what a doctor says" You know absolutely nothing of top nurses. They wear the pants. I'm comfortable with my statement. So, thankfully you don't know what to say.
- svnt 4y ago
  I am close with several ICU and cardiac nurses. They are experts at what they do, so in a sense you could call them medical experts. However they are medical experts in the same way that a plumber is a construction expert. I would not be surprised if a plumber was caught off guard by lighting codes. The term is so broad as to be meaningless in practical application.
  - samstave 4y ago
    Cool. I dont have a medical degree - but I can design hospitals (and have) so your approximation of knowledge/ability to the problem at hand is meaningless.
    - svnt 4y ago
      - samstave 4y ago
        You have literally no idea how much impact an individual can have on a project....(We typically call them 'Architects'...) but your scorn is well met ; It DOES take a team of countless -- and I have also been literally the sole designer of things that relied on thousands to implement. Thanks for your disinterest.
  - samstave 4y ago
    >>"_cardiac nurses_" - Please share this joke with them, this is from Dr. Francis Stutzman, Cardiologist and mayor of Saratoga Ca.. -- >"I've got good news!!! and bad news" >>You're _heart_ is going to last you the rest of your life!! >>>"Sadly, thats going to be about a week."

by svnt 4y ago

If you think ER nurses are medical experts I don’t know what to say. They are medical assistants and specialists who do not prescribe medications — they do what the doctor says.

wizofaus 4y ago

Maybe that's true in your part of the world but at least in Australia nurses play a crucial role in double checking whether medication directives/dosages actually make sense, and knowing what to do when patients have allergic reactions or appear to have been mis-prescribed certain drugs. Doctors make at most high level decisions about courses of treatment (even for chemotherapy) and rely on the experience and responsibility of nurses to ensure they're delivered safely and effectively. (Source: watching my partner do online professional competency tests. Definitely expert level knowledge required.)

svnt 4y ago
Yes your partner is a medical specialist. I have also had partners who were nurses. My statement is still correct. There is no such thing as a “medical expert” as the term is over broad and eg ER nurses are not required to advise patients on interactions of prescription medications. That falls to the doctor and likely pharmacist. It does not surprise me at all that a former ER nurse doesn’t know that some medication she got prescribed interacts with grapefruit juice.
- wizofaus 4y ago
  She's a registered nurse shrug. And yes she's worked ER.

samstave 4y ago

Hi. My grandmother knows more about medicine than you will ever know, my brother was the Commander of the tenth medical wing for USAF and had over 10,000 service members and their families under his care - director of the VA and currently runs the largest hospital group in a particular state... (Timothy Dean Ballard, MD Col. USAF - if you care to fact check my bullshit) and the personal flight surgeon to the joint chiefs at the pentagon (general Shelton)... Ive built more hospitals than you have stepped in.... My aunt is the head NICU nurse at El Camino Hospital in Mountain View Ca, (the hospital of the future) one of the many hospitals I built... (el Camino, UCSF, SFGH, Sequoia, Nome, Methodist) yeah im a little closer to this subject than you may have assumed. And if you think an ER nurse "just does what a doctor says" You know absolutely nothing of top nurses. They wear the pants. I'm comfortable with my statement. So, thankfully you don't know what to say.

svnt 4y ago
I am close with several ICU and cardiac nurses. They are experts at what they do, so in a sense you could call them medical experts. However they are medical experts in the same way that a plumber is a construction expert. I would not be surprised if a plumber was caught off guard by lighting codes. The term is so broad as to be meaningless in practical application.
- samstave 4y ago
  Cool. I dont have a medical degree - but I can design hospitals (and have) so your approximation of knowledge/ability to the problem at hand is meaningless.
  - svnt 4y ago
    - samstave 4y ago
      You have literally no idea how much impact an individual can have on a project....(We typically call them 'Architects'...) but your scorn is well met ; It DOES take a team of countless -- and I have also been literally the sole designer of things that relied on thousands to implement. Thanks for your disinterest.
- samstave 4y ago
  >>"_cardiac nurses_" - Please share this joke with them, this is from Dr. Francis Stutzman, Cardiologist and mayor of Saratoga Ca.. -- >"I've got good news!!! and bad news" >>You're _heart_ is going to last you the rest of your life!! >>>"Sadly, thats going to be about a week."