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YES!!!! They should. - My grandmother was an ER nurse her whole life (a candy-striper, etc, malpractice insurance investigations etc...) she was on some med

YES!!!! They should. - My grandmother was an ER nurse her whole life (a candy-striper, etc, malpractice insurance investigations etc...) she was on some medications and grapefruit was a staple morning breakfast for my grandmother and grandfather... Grapefruit, a small sprinkle of either sugar or salt and a glass of O.J. - every morning for like 40 years.... Nearly killed her after she was on some medication that had a poor interaction with grapefruit. and these were medical experts! So, _YES_ EDIT: The point is: that even if youre a medical expert, you're still susceptible to this problem, and SHE WAS AWARE but the thing was that a medication she took at like 75 years old, was NOT properly warned about... Jeasus folks, even brilliant people miss shit like this at times.

dehrmann 4y ago
Are you sure she would have even see it? After eating grapefruit for 40 years, she'd become accustomed to ignoring the warning. She wouldn't have thought this warning suddenly applied to her.
- samstave 4y ago
  New medications come to market and are not properly labled and the person in question who was a medical expert, was retired at the time - so she wasnt tracking product lit etc...
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    How would this new medication appear on the interaction label on all grapefruits/juice containers if your claim is that a medication itself made it all the way to market without the proper labeling on that very medication?
  - tsimionescu 4y ago
    Yes, and she would have seen the same warning on the grapefruit juice that she had been seeing for 40 years - which would have helped her not at all. Or do you think the warning would be kept up to date with the brand names (since many people don't know the substance names, of course) of the hundreds or thousands of medications that interact with grapefruit, and that people would periodically read that list? This is 100% on the doctor that prescribed the medication, a label on the juice or the fruit would do less than nothing, especially for people who consume it regularly.
oyashirochama 4y ago
Is it not the responsibility of the doctor prescribing or the very least the person who is taking the medication to be aware? They put warnings on all medication that has interactions with grapefruit, because they don't want to check a piece of paper on their prescription or mention to their doctor of their diet. It's your body, your health ultimately, in hand with the doctors support. How would you even mark fresh fruit? Force supermarkets, farmers, why stop there?
thombat 4y ago
So every day for 40 years she would have read and thought carefully about that warning label, so that finally when it became relevant it would save her? Unfortunately not: we humans cope with the enormous stream of information pouring relentlessly through our senses by ignoring almost any unchanging signal. In industries requiring constant awareness for rare events, such as piloting highly automated aircraft or scanning luggage for bombs, we've learnt to present constant challenges (fake alerts, etc) to keep the operators paying attention. See also: safely driving a Tesla on autopilot...
svnt 4y ago
If you think ER nurses are medical experts I don’t know what to say. They are medical assistants and specialists who do not prescribe medications — they do what the doctor says.
- wizofaus 4y ago
  Maybe that's true in your part of the world but at least in Australia nurses play a crucial role in double checking whether medication directives/dosages actually make sense, and knowing what to do when patients have allergic reactions or appear to have been mis-prescribed certain drugs. Doctors make at most high level decisions about courses of treatment (even for chemotherapy) and rely on the experience and responsibility of nurses to ensure they're delivered safely and effectively. (Source: watching my partner do online professional competency tests. Definitely expert level knowledge required.)
  - svnt 4y ago
    Yes your partner is a medical specialist. I have also had partners who were nurses. My statement is still correct. There is no such thing as a “medical expert” as the term is over broad and eg ER nurses are not required to advise patients on interactions of prescription medications. That falls to the doctor and likely pharmacist. It does not surprise me at all that a former ER nurse doesn’t know that some medication she got prescribed interacts with grapefruit juice.
    - wizofaus 4y ago
      She's a registered nurse shrug. And yes she's worked ER.
- samstave 4y ago
  Hi. My grandmother knows more about medicine than you will ever know, my brother was the Commander of the tenth medical wing for USAF and had over 10,000 service members and their families under his care - director of the VA and currently runs the largest hospital group in a particular state... (Timothy Dean Ballard, MD Col. USAF - if you care to fact check my bullshit) and the personal flight surgeon to the joint chiefs at the pentagon (general Shelton)... Ive built more hospitals than you have stepped in.... My aunt is the head NICU nurse at El Camino Hospital in Mountain View Ca, (the hospital of the future) one of the many hospitals I built... (el Camino, UCSF, SFGH, Sequoia, Nome, Methodist) yeah im a little closer to this subject than you may have assumed. And if you think an ER nurse "just does what a doctor says" You know absolutely nothing of top nurses. They wear the pants. I'm comfortable with my statement. So, thankfully you don't know what to say.

dehrmann 4y ago

Are you sure she would have even see it? After eating grapefruit for 40 years, she'd become accustomed to ignoring the warning. She wouldn't have thought this warning suddenly applied to her.

samstave 4y ago
New medications come to market and are not properly labled and the person in question who was a medical expert, was retired at the time - so she wasnt tracking product lit etc...
- sokoloff 4y ago
  How would this new medication appear on the interaction label on all grapefruits/juice containers if your claim is that a medication itself made it all the way to market without the proper labeling on that very medication?
- tsimionescu 4y ago
  Yes, and she would have seen the same warning on the grapefruit juice that she had been seeing for 40 years - which would have helped her not at all. Or do you think the warning would be kept up to date with the brand names (since many people don't know the substance names, of course) of the hundreds or thousands of medications that interact with grapefruit, and that people would periodically read that list? This is 100% on the doctor that prescribed the medication, a label on the juice or the fruit would do less than nothing, especially for people who consume it regularly.

oyashirochama 4y ago

Is it not the responsibility of the doctor prescribing or the very least the person who is taking the medication to be aware? They put warnings on all medication that has interactions with grapefruit, because they don't want to check a piece of paper on their prescription or mention to their doctor of their diet. It's your body, your health ultimately, in hand with the doctors support. How would you even mark fresh fruit? Force supermarkets, farmers, why stop there?

thombat 4y ago

So every day for 40 years she would have read and thought carefully about that warning label, so that finally when it became relevant it would save her? Unfortunately not: we humans cope with the enormous stream of information pouring relentlessly through our senses by ignoring almost any unchanging signal. In industries requiring constant awareness for rare events, such as piloting highly automated aircraft or scanning luggage for bombs, we've learnt to present constant challenges (fake alerts, etc) to keep the operators paying attention. See also: safely driving a Tesla on autopilot...

svnt 4y ago

If you think ER nurses are medical experts I don’t know what to say. They are medical assistants and specialists who do not prescribe medications — they do what the doctor says.

wizofaus 4y ago
Maybe that's true in your part of the world but at least in Australia nurses play a crucial role in double checking whether medication directives/dosages actually make sense, and knowing what to do when patients have allergic reactions or appear to have been mis-prescribed certain drugs. Doctors make at most high level decisions about courses of treatment (even for chemotherapy) and rely on the experience and responsibility of nurses to ensure they're delivered safely and effectively. (Source: watching my partner do online professional competency tests. Definitely expert level knowledge required.)
- svnt 4y ago
  Yes your partner is a medical specialist. I have also had partners who were nurses. My statement is still correct. There is no such thing as a “medical expert” as the term is over broad and eg ER nurses are not required to advise patients on interactions of prescription medications. That falls to the doctor and likely pharmacist. It does not surprise me at all that a former ER nurse doesn’t know that some medication she got prescribed interacts with grapefruit juice.
  - wizofaus 4y ago
    She's a registered nurse shrug. And yes she's worked ER.
samstave 4y ago
Hi. My grandmother knows more about medicine than you will ever know, my brother was the Commander of the tenth medical wing for USAF and had over 10,000 service members and their families under his care - director of the VA and currently runs the largest hospital group in a particular state... (Timothy Dean Ballard, MD Col. USAF - if you care to fact check my bullshit) and the personal flight surgeon to the joint chiefs at the pentagon (general Shelton)... Ive built more hospitals than you have stepped in.... My aunt is the head NICU nurse at El Camino Hospital in Mountain View Ca, (the hospital of the future) one of the many hospitals I built... (el Camino, UCSF, SFGH, Sequoia, Nome, Methodist) yeah im a little closer to this subject than you may have assumed. And if you think an ER nurse "just does what a doctor says" You know absolutely nothing of top nurses. They wear the pants. I'm comfortable with my statement. So, thankfully you don't know what to say.