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> folks calling out that society has traditionally and continues to discriminate using "factors including race, age, disability status, geography, economic back

by tomp 4y ago

> folks calling out that society has traditionally and continues to discriminate using "factors including race, age, disability status, geography, economic background, and gender". Because it’s used to obfuscate the singular most important factor: wealth. Divide and conquer.

tchaffee 4y ago
> Because it’s used to obfuscate the singular most important factor: wealth. Divide and conquer. Did you know you can identify as disabled while still feeling solidarity with other groups who are discriminated against? It doesn't feel like divide and conquer to me. Does the recent student loan forgiveness of up to $20,000 jive with your claim that we are dealing with someone who is trying to use divide and conquer to avoid dealing with wealth inequities? And making sure a valuable resource is now free that used to cost money is directly addressing one aspect of the wealth factor, isn't it? Equal access to a valuable resource for everyone in the world divides people in what way? Also note that wealth does not eliminate a physical disability. Nor does it erase the real discrimination that still happens. Are we allowed to talk about that discrimination and ask for more equity if it's our life experience? Or is that divide and conquer?
- xodjmk 4y ago
  Not everyone believes in your religion. Nothing about this has anything to do with equity or 'groups that are discriminated against'. The paywalls are about greed and wealth distribution. Trying to twist the narrative to suck sympathy out of every possible situation will backfire and make people go against otherwise beneficial policies.
  - tchaffee 4y ago
    > Not everyone believes in your religion. I don't have a religion. I mostly asked questions. Please answer them. > Nothing about this has anything to do with equity or 'groups that are discriminated against'. The paywalls are about greed and wealth distribution. It seems like you think the current wealth distribution is not... equitable. One factor mentioned in the press release was "economic background". > Trying to twist the narrative to suck sympathy out of every possible situation will backfire and make people go against otherwise beneficial policies. Disabled people don't want your sympathy. So far I have not seen equitable policy changes backfire. That's a failed attempt on your part to use scare tactics to shut people up. What I've seen is measurable improvements. But you can continue to panic over progress, that is of course your personal choice.
    - xodjmk 4y ago
      It is progress to get rid of leeches that are profiting off of publicly funded research. Very simple. The water was clear until Dr. Christopher Steven Marcum, Dr. Ryan Donohue, and you shat in the pool.
      - tchaffee 4y ago
        Calm down. No one shat in any pool. Glad you agree this change is progress towards equity. Worrisome that you got so triggered over the wording that the world is now a little more equitable.

by tomp 4y ago

tchaffee 4y ago

> Because it’s used to obfuscate the singular most important factor: wealth. Divide and conquer. Did you know you can identify as disabled while still feeling solidarity with other groups who are discriminated against? It doesn't feel like divide and conquer to me. Does the recent student loan forgiveness of up to $20,000 jive with your claim that we are dealing with someone who is trying to use divide and conquer to avoid dealing with wealth inequities? And making sure a valuable resource is now free that used to cost money is directly addressing one aspect of the wealth factor, isn't it? Equal access to a valuable resource for everyone in the world divides people in what way? Also note that wealth does not eliminate a physical disability. Nor does it erase the real discrimination that still happens. Are we allowed to talk about that discrimination and ask for more equity if it's our life experience? Or is that divide and conquer?

xodjmk 4y ago
Not everyone believes in your religion. Nothing about this has anything to do with equity or 'groups that are discriminated against'. The paywalls are about greed and wealth distribution. Trying to twist the narrative to suck sympathy out of every possible situation will backfire and make people go against otherwise beneficial policies.
- tchaffee 4y ago
  > Not everyone believes in your religion. I don't have a religion. I mostly asked questions. Please answer them. > Nothing about this has anything to do with equity or 'groups that are discriminated against'. The paywalls are about greed and wealth distribution. It seems like you think the current wealth distribution is not... equitable. One factor mentioned in the press release was "economic background". > Trying to twist the narrative to suck sympathy out of every possible situation will backfire and make people go against otherwise beneficial policies. Disabled people don't want your sympathy. So far I have not seen equitable policy changes backfire. That's a failed attempt on your part to use scare tactics to shut people up. What I've seen is measurable improvements. But you can continue to panic over progress, that is of course your personal choice.
  - xodjmk 4y ago
    It is progress to get rid of leeches that are profiting off of publicly funded research. Very simple. The water was clear until Dr. Christopher Steven Marcum, Dr. Ryan Donohue, and you shat in the pool.
    - tchaffee 4y ago
      Calm down. No one shat in any pool. Glad you agree this change is progress towards equity. Worrisome that you got so triggered over the wording that the world is now a little more equitable.