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> in some countries there are monetary incentives associated with publishing in the top journals. Meaning the authors get paid the more they publish? How? Per

> in some countries there are monetary incentives associated with publishing in the top journals. Meaning the authors get paid the more they publish? How? Per paper or career advancements-->> higher salary?

pfortuny 4y ago
This is for example an incentive for tenured professors in Spain to do research: if you get (Maths here) 5 JCR papers in 6 years of which (this is one of the criteria, there are more) three are in the top tercile, then you get a bonus of 120€/month from that point on (this can be obtained only every 6 years). That has been a good incentive to date (I insist, this is maths and there are very few possibilities for cheating in my field, but of course there are instances), as I see it, because this way you incentivate academic professors to really do research (otherwise one can have a truly leisurely life in Spanish public universities once one gets tenure, without any repercussions).
- killingtime74 4y ago
  120 euros a month per paper or total? That's only 4 euros a day? That's enough to motivate?
  - pfortuny 4y ago
    Total, total. Well, it is a permanent 120Eu per month (usually inflation adjusted, more or less), which considering that the tenured professor salary starts at like 1800Eu per month, is not so bad (at least it is some incentive). You can end up with 5 (or 6, if lucky) of these. You see: the problem is not the incentive, but the salary itself. (All the numbers above are more or less with taxes and Social Security already discounted). Edit: never underestimate the power of saving and compound interest.
    - killingtime74 4y ago
      Ah if it’s after tax and permanent that’s pretty good
d0mine 4y ago
Scientists in all countries have an incentive to publish in top journals (science is a global affair. "publish or perish" is universal).
asdff 4y ago
Meaning if you want to be a professor in an ivy league you need to have published in Science or Nature

pfortuny 4y ago

This is for example an incentive for tenured professors in Spain to do research: if you get (Maths here) 5 JCR papers in 6 years of which (this is one of the criteria, there are more) three are in the top tercile, then you get a bonus of 120€/month from that point on (this can be obtained only every 6 years). That has been a good incentive to date (I insist, this is maths and there are very few possibilities for cheating in my field, but of course there are instances), as I see it, because this way you incentivate academic professors to really do research (otherwise one can have a truly leisurely life in Spanish public universities once one gets tenure, without any repercussions).

killingtime74 4y ago
120 euros a month per paper or total? That's only 4 euros a day? That's enough to motivate?
- pfortuny 4y ago
  Total, total. Well, it is a permanent 120Eu per month (usually inflation adjusted, more or less), which considering that the tenured professor salary starts at like 1800Eu per month, is not so bad (at least it is some incentive). You can end up with 5 (or 6, if lucky) of these. You see: the problem is not the incentive, but the salary itself. (All the numbers above are more or less with taxes and Social Security already discounted). Edit: never underestimate the power of saving and compound interest.
  - killingtime74 4y ago
    Ah if it’s after tax and permanent that’s pretty good

d0mine 4y ago

Scientists in all countries have an incentive to publish in top journals (science is a global affair. "publish or perish" is universal).

asdff 4y ago

Meaning if you want to be a professor in an ivy league you need to have published in Science or Nature