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Huge number of people dependent on service, owner incapacitated, GoDaddy able to prevent disruption to service by simply freezing current settings. Not seeing t

Huge number of people dependent on service, owner incapacitated, GoDaddy able to prevent disruption to service by simply freezing current settings. Not seeing the "out of this world crazy".

neoberg 4y ago
> owner incapacitated Owner deliberately created a bus factor issue and decided to violate sanctions against North Korea.
smoldesu 4y ago
The owner went to jail. You think GoDaddy is going to give people a domain in-perpetuity for free? Are you unfamiliar with their business model or something?
- tomlogic 4y ago
  I don't see anyone asking for that -- just for the ability for someone other than the domain owner to pay the annual renewal fee.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    They can, they just have to let it lapse first. Same as it's always been with GoDaddy, why should they make an exception here?
    - npc54321 4y ago
      You hate web3 more than you love freedom
      - ethanbond 4y ago
        Freedom for service providers to unilaterally extend contracts? Uhhhh
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        Speak for yourself, I've used Bittorrent since I was 12. Some of us don't need digital Chuck-E-Cheese tokens to express our digital freedom.
cush 4y ago
The only conceivable reason GoDaddy would entertain the idea is that the gross incompetence and negligence of a single individual has created such an immense liability for millions of users. And single individuals creating immense liabilities for millions of users seems to be par for the course for web3. Really nothing new.
- ETH_start 4y ago
  So you agree, not totally crazy.
  - cush 4y ago
    If that's your conclusion, I'm not surprised you're so invested in these ideas.
    - ETH_start 4y ago
      You just provided a plausible rationale for Twitter to extend the contract. But I apologize for interrupting your stream of snarky comments with a good faith interpretation And yes, I am invested in the idea of not being dependent on a large corporation to authenticate my identity online, or a large bank to access my money. No surprise many people reject these ideas, given how many people's livelihoods now depend on institutions that are shaped around the existence of centralized points of control. Just remember, the only way crypto/Web3 fails, is if a lot more people are put in prison, like the way the Netherlands put Alexey Pertsev in prison for publishing open source Tornado Cash code. Is that the world you want to live in?
      - cush 4y ago
        > livelihoods depend on... centralized points of control This control they have has nothing to do with centralization or decentralization. They get it through the data-economy we live in - monopolistic companies syphoning petabytes of information about us to build impenetrable moats of data that smaller businesses can't compete with. Currency isn't even on their radar. It's irrelevant. When that cash or coin needs to be transferred into real tangible value, they'll be taking their share, regardless if the system that transaction is running on is an Pentium 3 AMEX COBOL server, or via the mining rig that came out last week consuming the energy from burning a small rainforest.
maccard 4y ago
Why does this domain get special treatment. If Google forget to register google.com should their registrar renew it out of the good of their hearts?
ethanbond 4y ago
The owner isn’t incapacitated. He has a lawyer who can decide what happens with the domain! These sorts of disputes happen all the time. They don’t generally resolve with “contractor signs with counterparty’s name on new contracts in perpetuity.”

Huge number of people dependent on service, owner incapacitated, GoDaddy able to prevent disruption to service by simply freezing current settings. Not seeing the "out of this world crazy".

neoberg 4y ago

> owner incapacitated Owner deliberately created a bus factor issue and decided to violate sanctions against North Korea.

smoldesu 4y ago

The owner went to jail. You think GoDaddy is going to give people a domain in-perpetuity for free? Are you unfamiliar with their business model or something?

tomlogic 4y ago
I don't see anyone asking for that -- just for the ability for someone other than the domain owner to pay the annual renewal fee.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  They can, they just have to let it lapse first. Same as it's always been with GoDaddy, why should they make an exception here?
  - npc54321 4y ago
    You hate web3 more than you love freedom
    - ethanbond 4y ago
      Freedom for service providers to unilaterally extend contracts? Uhhhh
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      Speak for yourself, I've used Bittorrent since I was 12. Some of us don't need digital Chuck-E-Cheese tokens to express our digital freedom.

cush 4y ago

The only conceivable reason GoDaddy would entertain the idea is that the gross incompetence and negligence of a single individual has created such an immense liability for millions of users. And single individuals creating immense liabilities for millions of users seems to be par for the course for web3. Really nothing new.

ETH_start 4y ago
So you agree, not totally crazy.
- cush 4y ago
  If that's your conclusion, I'm not surprised you're so invested in these ideas.
  - ETH_start 4y ago
    You just provided a plausible rationale for Twitter to extend the contract. But I apologize for interrupting your stream of snarky comments with a good faith interpretation And yes, I am invested in the idea of not being dependent on a large corporation to authenticate my identity online, or a large bank to access my money. No surprise many people reject these ideas, given how many people's livelihoods now depend on institutions that are shaped around the existence of centralized points of control. Just remember, the only way crypto/Web3 fails, is if a lot more people are put in prison, like the way the Netherlands put Alexey Pertsev in prison for publishing open source Tornado Cash code. Is that the world you want to live in?
    - cush 4y ago
      > livelihoods depend on... centralized points of control This control they have has nothing to do with centralization or decentralization. They get it through the data-economy we live in - monopolistic companies syphoning petabytes of information about us to build impenetrable moats of data that smaller businesses can't compete with. Currency isn't even on their radar. It's irrelevant. When that cash or coin needs to be transferred into real tangible value, they'll be taking their share, regardless if the system that transaction is running on is an Pentium 3 AMEX COBOL server, or via the mining rig that came out last week consuming the energy from burning a small rainforest.

maccard 4y ago

Why does this domain get special treatment. If Google forget to register google.com should their registrar renew it out of the good of their hearts?

ethanbond 4y ago

The owner isn’t incapacitated. He has a lawyer who can decide what happens with the domain! These sorts of disputes happen all the time. They don’t generally resolve with “contractor signs with counterparty’s name on new contracts in perpetuity.”