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On a physical piano you have to make these tuning compromises. A computer generated piano performance could pretty easily pick versions of each note that are i
by BurningFrog 4y ago
On a physical piano you have to make these tuning compromises.
A computer generated piano performance could pretty easily pick versions of each note that are in harmony with the other notes played at that moment.
I wonder if that would be worth doing? Has it maybe already been done?
- mandmandam 4y agoThis might be the closest to what you're looking for; it was linked in tfa: https://oddsound.com/ https://oddsound.com/
- coldtea 4y agoThough, this is more of a "toolset" to do custom tunings and apply them at various times in a DAW, than something actually implementing what the parent asked for. In other words, it's something someone might use to implement what they asked for - but also lots of other things besides, and it's not meant specifically for that purpose.
- shadowofneptune 4y agoTuning an instrument to the rest of the instruments in the ensemble is pretty common outside of Western music. Could be done with a normal piano.
- BurningFrog 4y agoI'm talking about tuning the individual "keys" of the piano to harmonize with the other keys being played at every moment.
- nsv 4y agoWell, pianos are not as easy to tune as some other instruments. But you're right that it could be done.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoWestern music involves a lot of instruments with fixed tunings, like oboes and trumpets, which are made in equal temperament.
- adgjlsfhk1 4y agowind instruments don't have fixed tuning. intonation allows you to bend notes enough to get the tuning you want. for a dramatic example of this, look at the clarinet solo at the beginning of rhapsody in blue.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoThe glissando at the opening of rhapsody in blue is not a counterexample to fixed tuning. It is a specific technique availed by having open holes under the fingers: by sliding the fingers slowly off the holes, and partially covering the holes, you can get a glissando effect. This same technique is used to create semitones. Both of these are very difficult to do precisely, and come at a significant cost in the agility of the player. They are more equivalent to pitch bending on a guitar than adjusting tuning systems on a violin, which has almost no impact. Instruments with valves and hole covers, like bassoons, make techniques like this extremely difficult if not impossible. However, the holes in the instrument are drilled at specific places along the length of the instrument corresponding to specific notes. This is what gives the instrument its tuning. Hole positions are calculated and drilled very precisely to make sure that the instrument is in tune. It is not accurate to say that these instruments do not have fixed tuning. The tuning is literally drilled into the body of the instrument.
- adgjlsfhk1 4y agoDude I've played clarinet for literally a decade (and a few years of saxophone). Anyone who's even a moderately talented amateur can bend notes enough to bend your note out of equal temperament. Sure you don't do this for anything fast, but if you have a longer chord this is a very common technique.
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- sporkl 4y agoThere have been a couple attempts, the term is "adaptive pure intonation." Check out the list at https://en.xen.wiki/w/Adaptive_just_intonation https://en.xen.wiki/w/Adaptive_just_intonation . Also want to plug my own project, Pivotuner: https://www.dmitrivolkov.com/projects/pivotuner/ https://www.dmitrivolkov.com/projects/pivotuner/ . I believe it gives more flexibility and control to the performer than the others on that list. It's not publicly released yet (hopefully soon), but (anyone) feel free to email me if you're curious to try it out!