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> It taught me a serious lesson about the law: They exist only for power and profit. I understand your frustration, but the law does not exist ONLY (or at all,

> It taught me a serious lesson about the law: They exist only for power and profit. I understand your frustration, but the law does not exist ONLY (or at all, if I'm being honest) for power and profit. The law exists to provide each person with a baseline to guide their interactions, whether it be between them and other individuals, or between them and their government. Now, obviously you have abuses and especially when some in the government/beaurocracy find out they can get funds by abusing their authority (e.g. civil asset forfeiture), but that's not why the law exists, and it doesn't happen everywhere. That's just a symptom of a lack of oversight by we, the people (chiefly).

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jagtesh 4y ago
Also a clear lack of empathy. I mean, sure, the person did something wrong. But have they stopped being human? Where is the humanity in squeezing every penny out of someone already broken and poor ($250/day is more than what many Americans earn in a day). Then taking away 50% of any hope/real shot at living they have. This sounds like profiteering at their expense. (Edit: this is evil). Jail time and a permanent record is more punishment than it sounds. It severely affects future employment, even things like renting an apartment or getting a car loan (the ubiquitous background checks are done to weed such people out).
- illuminerdy 4y ago
  I agree that what happened to him should not have happened. But we're the ones who let this stuff happen. We're the ones who vote in the people (or neglect to vote them out) who put these policies in place.
  - TomSwirly 4y ago
    "Vote harder! The criminals who steal from you aren't to blame - you, the victim, are!"
TomSwirly 4y ago
> That's just a symptom of a lack of oversight by we, the people (chiefly). So your argument is that it is not the fault of the people who are paid to do this job, out of our tax money, but it is somehow our fault, even though your average person has literally no input whatsoever into any of this? That's just false. I mean, almost 90% of Americans live in a non-swing state where their vote is entirely meaningless.
- illuminerdy 4y ago
dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
>I understand your frustration, but the law does not exist ONLY (or at all, if I'm being honest) for power and profit. Sigh, another kid who has not faced life.

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jagtesh 4y ago

Also a clear lack of empathy. I mean, sure, the person did something wrong. But have they stopped being human? Where is the humanity in squeezing every penny out of someone already broken and poor ($250/day is more than what many Americans earn in a day). Then taking away 50% of any hope/real shot at living they have. This sounds like profiteering at their expense. (Edit: this is evil). Jail time and a permanent record is more punishment than it sounds. It severely affects future employment, even things like renting an apartment or getting a car loan (the ubiquitous background checks are done to weed such people out).

illuminerdy 4y ago
I agree that what happened to him should not have happened. But we're the ones who let this stuff happen. We're the ones who vote in the people (or neglect to vote them out) who put these policies in place.
- TomSwirly 4y ago
  "Vote harder! The criminals who steal from you aren't to blame - you, the victim, are!"

TomSwirly 4y ago

> That's just a symptom of a lack of oversight by we, the people (chiefly). So your argument is that it is not the fault of the people who are paid to do this job, out of our tax money, but it is somehow our fault, even though your average person has literally no input whatsoever into any of this? That's just false. I mean, almost 90% of Americans live in a non-swing state where their vote is entirely meaningless.

illuminerdy 4y ago

dennis_jeeves1 4y ago

>I understand your frustration, but the law does not exist ONLY (or at all, if I'm being honest) for power and profit. Sigh, another kid who has not faced life.