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I find Apple hate to be strange. They are just like any other company. They don’t go out of their way to hire the most evil engineers and execs. They have good

I find Apple hate to be strange. They are just like any other company. They don’t go out of their way to hire the most evil engineers and execs. They have good behaviours they should be credited for and bad behaviours they should be criticised for just like the others. Often the hate is based on misinformation too, when asked haters will say things like “Apple slowed down old phones so you’ll buy a new one” - it doesn’t even click that the word “battery” in batterygate is important, or that Apple was extending the life of handsets, many of which were out of warranty. They didn’t communicate properly for which they paid heavily for but they feature was in good faith and survives to this day but I still read the parroted comment at least once a month in forums. The “overpriced” thing confuses me too - surely Apple can only judge that? If they meet their sales targets then wasn’t it priced correctly? People obviously judged the specs, build quality, support period and thought, this is good value?

mstipetic 4y ago
Engineers REALLY don't understand pricing. Models with higher specs like more RAM target the professional segment which isn't that price sensitive, most likely just having their company buy it for them. It's a way to capture more value from that segment. It's like saying why do these agencies charge $50k for a website, I could do it in a weekend.
- effie 4y ago
  Or they do understand Apple's pricing, but realize you can buy PC hardware with much larger RAM and disk space for much better price.
  - princevegeta89 4y ago
    Yes, this is my gripe. Man, the 2017 Macbooks that removed USB Ports and brought in the touchbar (which to me, is pointless) were just a big misstep. I could buy an equally capable Windows laptop for 1/3rd the price then.
  - mstipetic 4y ago
    You’re just proving my point.
    - effie 4y ago
      Which one? That engineers do not understand that Apple can charge more than PC makers?
dmz73 4y ago
Apple is seen as premium brand by most of their customers who are willing to pay more just for that alone. Overpriced image is certainly justified based on price they charge for upgrades (8gb to 16gb, 256gb to 512gb etc). In my experience Apple hardware is on par with the rest of the major brands, some models might be better, some worse, as is the case with all manufactures but Apple users usually stick with Apple even after bad experience and are willing to pay extra for initial purchase, extra for upgrades, extra for insurance plans that are almost mandatory, and extra for peripherals. People who shy away from Apple are usually less inclined to pay extra for things that they believe should be included or "premium" brand peripherals and upgrades, and are also willing, and able, to switch brands if they receive faulty hardware or poor service.

mstipetic 4y ago

Engineers REALLY don't understand pricing. Models with higher specs like more RAM target the professional segment which isn't that price sensitive, most likely just having their company buy it for them. It's a way to capture more value from that segment. It's like saying why do these agencies charge $50k for a website, I could do it in a weekend.

effie 4y ago
Or they do understand Apple's pricing, but realize you can buy PC hardware with much larger RAM and disk space for much better price.
- princevegeta89 4y ago
  Yes, this is my gripe. Man, the 2017 Macbooks that removed USB Ports and brought in the touchbar (which to me, is pointless) were just a big misstep. I could buy an equally capable Windows laptop for 1/3rd the price then.
- mstipetic 4y ago
  You’re just proving my point.
  - effie 4y ago
    Which one? That engineers do not understand that Apple can charge more than PC makers?

dmz73 4y ago

Apple is seen as premium brand by most of their customers who are willing to pay more just for that alone. Overpriced image is certainly justified based on price they charge for upgrades (8gb to 16gb, 256gb to 512gb etc). In my experience Apple hardware is on par with the rest of the major brands, some models might be better, some worse, as is the case with all manufactures but Apple users usually stick with Apple even after bad experience and are willing to pay extra for initial purchase, extra for upgrades, extra for insurance plans that are almost mandatory, and extra for peripherals. People who shy away from Apple are usually less inclined to pay extra for things that they believe should be included or "premium" brand peripherals and upgrades, and are also willing, and able, to switch brands if they receive faulty hardware or poor service.