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It's simpler just to make the privately run prisons illegal so as to avoid any moral hazards. If the facility is under utilized less investment will be needed

It's simpler just to make the privately run prisons illegal so as to avoid any moral hazards. If the facility is under utilized less investment will be needed in the future and conditions can be improved for existing inmates.

gruez 4y ago
> It's simpler just to make the privately run prisons illegal so as to avoid any moral hazards. What are the moral hazards here? The people running the prisons aren't the ones sentencing/convicting criminals. >If the facility is under utilized less investment will be needed in the future and conditions can be improved for existing inmates. What's the difference between wasting money because the state didn't meet the minimum inmate quota, and wasting money because the state invested in a 1000 inmate prison but there's only 600 prisoners?
- michaelmrose 4y ago
  The people running the prisons give money to politicians, judges, sheriff's who are elected and make and enforce the laws. In one instance 2 judges were being bribed directly to sentence juveniles to maximimum sentences cutting out the middleman and directly selling minority children into slavery like it's 1822 rather than 2022. You actually don't see the moral hazard here?
  - gruez 4y ago
    > The people running the prisons give money to politicians, judges, sheriff's who are elected and make and enforce the laws. under this interpretation you should probably ban police/correctional officers as well, because they have the same moral hazard. Same goes for anyone else that is involved in institutions that profit off human suffering (eg. hospitals).
    - michaelmrose 4y ago
      In the prior example you considered the separation between lawmaker, prosecutor, and jailer sufficient to provide objectivity in theory ignoring while making no study of the actuality where money flows from prison companies directly to lawmakers. Now you make a spurious connection between prison and hospital because I guess suffering happens in both institutions? Yes in theory EVERY institution may advocate for positions that advance their interests over the populace but none other is so odious as to advocate for more people to be in chains so they may directly trade the hours and years of their lives for gold nor selling the labor of the slaves it has so corruptly acquired by advocating for greater bondage. It seems to me obvious that police officers, correction officers, and hospital staff are all absolutely necessary for the function of our society. Having private prisons which only house 8% of inmates at this time absolutely isn't.

gruez 4y ago

> It's simpler just to make the privately run prisons illegal so as to avoid any moral hazards. What are the moral hazards here? The people running the prisons aren't the ones sentencing/convicting criminals. >If the facility is under utilized less investment will be needed in the future and conditions can be improved for existing inmates. What's the difference between wasting money because the state didn't meet the minimum inmate quota, and wasting money because the state invested in a 1000 inmate prison but there's only 600 prisoners?

michaelmrose 4y ago
The people running the prisons give money to politicians, judges, sheriff's who are elected and make and enforce the laws. In one instance 2 judges were being bribed directly to sentence juveniles to maximimum sentences cutting out the middleman and directly selling minority children into slavery like it's 1822 rather than 2022. You actually don't see the moral hazard here?
- gruez 4y ago
  > The people running the prisons give money to politicians, judges, sheriff's who are elected and make and enforce the laws. under this interpretation you should probably ban police/correctional officers as well, because they have the same moral hazard. Same goes for anyone else that is involved in institutions that profit off human suffering (eg. hospitals).
  - michaelmrose 4y ago
    In the prior example you considered the separation between lawmaker, prosecutor, and jailer sufficient to provide objectivity in theory ignoring while making no study of the actuality where money flows from prison companies directly to lawmakers. Now you make a spurious connection between prison and hospital because I guess suffering happens in both institutions? Yes in theory EVERY institution may advocate for positions that advance their interests over the populace but none other is so odious as to advocate for more people to be in chains so they may directly trade the hours and years of their lives for gold nor selling the labor of the slaves it has so corruptly acquired by advocating for greater bondage. It seems to me obvious that police officers, correction officers, and hospital staff are all absolutely necessary for the function of our society. Having private prisons which only house 8% of inmates at this time absolutely isn't.