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Does anyone here remember a website, active about ten years ago, that had languages ranked according to statements like, "I feel like I'm not smart enough to pr

Does anyone here remember a website, active about ten years ago, that had languages ranked according to statements like, "I feel like I'm not smart enough to program in this language," and, "This language has good support for concurrency?" There was another ranking for different martial arts, IIRC. I don't remember the name of the site and can't find any references to it anywhere.

e3bc54b2 4y ago
Perhaps this one?[0] It doesn't match exact description and I also have vague memory of something similar, but not able to find it right now. Drew's post does a reasonably snarky job though :) 0: https://drewdevault.com/2019/09/08/Enough-to-decide.html https://drewdevault.com/2019/09/08/Enough-to-decide.html
- xhevahir 4y ago
  I'll have to read that. I seem to remember the page having orange elements like HN's, and the language rankings were displayed in tables. I thought it was a really good idea, although I have no idea when or how the initial survey was conducted. The ranking was pretty comprehensive both in the range of questions and the number of languages (although you'd have to wonder how many respondents had any experience with languages like Io or Oz.)
timbit42 4y ago
It sounds like you are referring to a website called "The Hammer Principle" formerly hosted at hammerprinciple.com. The website went down shortly after the owner had collected all the data they wanted. I collected a bunch of the data in a spreadsheet in March 2014 before the website went down. It covered 51 programming languages and 15 statements about them such as: * Easy to tell what code does * Language is expressive * Code is very readable * Code written is elegant * I enjoy using this language * I choose to use this language * I would like to write more * I can be sure code is correct * This is a high level language * Code is easy to maintain * Encourages reusable code * It is easy to write efficient code * Code tends to be efficient * Code tends to be reliable * This language is good for teaching children
- xhevahir 4y ago
  Yes! That's the one!
- breck 4y ago
  Interesting! https://web.archive.org/web/20170412144310/http://www.hammerprinciple.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170412144310/http://www.hammer...
  - timbit42 4y ago
    Looks like it was online longer than I thought and had a lot more questions added after March 2014.

e3bc54b2 4y ago

Perhaps this one?[0] It doesn't match exact description and I also have vague memory of something similar, but not able to find it right now. Drew's post does a reasonably snarky job though :) 0: https://drewdevault.com/2019/09/08/Enough-to-decide.html https://drewdevault.com/2019/09/08/Enough-to-decide.html

xhevahir 4y ago
I'll have to read that. I seem to remember the page having orange elements like HN's, and the language rankings were displayed in tables. I thought it was a really good idea, although I have no idea when or how the initial survey was conducted. The ranking was pretty comprehensive both in the range of questions and the number of languages (although you'd have to wonder how many respondents had any experience with languages like Io or Oz.)

timbit42 4y ago

It sounds like you are referring to a website called "The Hammer Principle" formerly hosted at hammerprinciple.com. The website went down shortly after the owner had collected all the data they wanted. I collected a bunch of the data in a spreadsheet in March 2014 before the website went down. It covered 51 programming languages and 15 statements about them such as: * Easy to tell what code does * Language is expressive * Code is very readable * Code written is elegant * I enjoy using this language * I choose to use this language * I would like to write more * I can be sure code is correct * This is a high level language * Code is easy to maintain * Encourages reusable code * It is easy to write efficient code * Code tends to be efficient * Code tends to be reliable * This language is good for teaching children

xhevahir 4y ago
Yes! That's the one!
breck 4y ago
Interesting! https://web.archive.org/web/20170412144310/http://www.hammerprinciple.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170412144310/http://www.hammer...
- timbit42 4y ago
  Looks like it was online longer than I thought and had a lot more questions added after March 2014.