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China or India are not "the West". My local mainstream media is reporting about Germany correctly and in full, btw. But yeah, we like to shit on Germans, other

China or India are not "the West". My local mainstream media is reporting about Germany correctly and in full, btw. But yeah, we like to shit on Germans, other nations might not be alike in that. > but we can’t forget Middle East, same way we can’t forget Trump and resulting deterioration of human rights. Agreed. > same as worldview of Putin, essentially the belief that their country has god-given right to invade others Crimes against humanity are happening in Afghanistan now in much greater number than when the US Army was there. I think that coming to resolve problems such as were/are in Afghanistan is the correct thing to do (not saying the practice worked out perfectly and that there weren't problems). That's absolutely incomparable to Putin who's there to take children, gas/oil fields and access to Black Sea, not to help.

trasz 4y ago
You can really claim with a straight face that invading Afghanistan and killing two hundred thousand random people was to help? Because, well, that’s exactly what Rashists say about invading Ukraine. Once again: same mentality.
- UIUC_06 4y ago
  #whataboutism "invading Afghanistan and killing two hundred thousand random people" there's that word "random" again. You disqualify yourself from any serious discussions when you keep using that. You're throwing around crazy numbers like someone on The View.
  - trasz 4y ago
    >there's that word "random" again. So you are saying all those droned kids were combatants, not random victims? >You're throwing around crazy numbers like someone on The View. Those are official statistics, you’ll find them quoted on Wikipedia. Let me guess: they look weird to you, because your media only reports loses on the invading side.
- BeMoreSpecific 4y ago
  What Russians/Putin said doesn't really matter to me, there are no (significant amount of) fascists in Ukraine and no persecution of Russians was happening. Meanwhile, Taliban is very much real and their crimes against humanity are real too.
  - trasz 4y ago
    Taliban was just an excuse, some as “Ukrainian Nazis” are to Rashists. If US really wanted to hunt terrorists, they would invade Saudi Arabia instead. Also - you really believe those two hundred thousand people killed, as “US aid to Afghanistan”, were Taliban?

trasz 4y ago

You can really claim with a straight face that invading Afghanistan and killing two hundred thousand random people was to help? Because, well, that’s exactly what Rashists say about invading Ukraine. Once again: same mentality.

UIUC_06 4y ago
#whataboutism "invading Afghanistan and killing two hundred thousand random people" there's that word "random" again. You disqualify yourself from any serious discussions when you keep using that. You're throwing around crazy numbers like someone on The View.
- trasz 4y ago
  >there's that word "random" again. So you are saying all those droned kids were combatants, not random victims? >You're throwing around crazy numbers like someone on The View. Those are official statistics, you’ll find them quoted on Wikipedia. Let me guess: they look weird to you, because your media only reports loses on the invading side.
BeMoreSpecific 4y ago
What Russians/Putin said doesn't really matter to me, there are no (significant amount of) fascists in Ukraine and no persecution of Russians was happening. Meanwhile, Taliban is very much real and their crimes against humanity are real too.
- trasz 4y ago
  Taliban was just an excuse, some as “Ukrainian Nazis” are to Rashists. If US really wanted to hunt terrorists, they would invade Saudi Arabia instead. Also - you really believe those two hundred thousand people killed, as “US aid to Afghanistan”, were Taliban?