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I'd save this judgment call for when there's node parity between Apple's chips, x86 and even other ARM manufacturers. The fact is that Apple's chips are on smal

I'd save this judgment call for when there's node parity between Apple's chips, x86 and even other ARM manufacturers. The fact is that Apple's chips are on smaller nodes than the rest of the competition, because they bought up all of manufacturing on those nodes from TSMC. Performance per watt, power draw, thermals, etc are all functions of node size.

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senttoschool 4y ago
Apple Silicon is magnitudes more efficient. It cannot be explained by node size alone. TSMC 5nm is 15%-25% higher performance or 30% lower power compared to TSMC 7nm. Also, Apple's 7nm chips outperformed AMD/Intel 7nm chips.
- pulse7 4y ago
  Compare AMD Ryzen 7 5800U [1] with Apple M2 8 Core [2] and you will see that Apple Silicon is not "magnitudes more efficient", but ca. 30% faster in single-thread, but at the same time 30% slower in multi-thread and with 25% higher TDP... This is not "magnitudes more efficient"... [1] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+5800U&id=4102 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+5800U&i... [2] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M2+8+Core+3500+MHz&id=4922 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M2+8+Core+350...
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    Passmark is a terrible benchmark. Stick to SPEC or Geekbench5. This Reddit post summarizes the efficiency and speed advantages of the M1: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/nii37s/comment/gz2xd7y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/nii37s/comment/gz...
urthor 4y ago
The sensible answer.