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Anecdote, had covid in the end of 2020, still dont feel 100%, maybe i just grew old while sick and thats just life, but i feel like shit comparable to what i fe

Anecdote, had covid in the end of 2020, still dont feel 100%, maybe i just grew old while sick and thats just life, but i feel like shit comparable to what i felt before it.

daflip 4y ago
this is exactly me also
monetus 4y ago
Work on lung exercises for fatigue. I have had health complications that caused the same problem as long covid seemingly causes; tiny tiny clots wreaking havoc on capillaries. I think it depends on where the viral load landed and grew, but if it was in your lungs, you would maybe need to treat it as if you have chronic bronchitis. If it was in your sinuses and mouth, messing up your senses, then I'm sorry, idk what to do. ...maybe a similar approach with anti-inflammatories, hopefully something for your nerves too. Hope you're good atm
- bicijay 4y ago
  Yeah, had literally 100s of lab tests, all came back ok. Exercise intolerance for at least an year. But im slowly getting back on form, gym doesnt kill me anymore. Still have some random digestion issues, slightly elevated HR and just generally feeling worse than before. But ill look into lung exercises, thank you for the tip
  - JoshTko 4y ago
    Did you tests include inflammation markers such as sedimentation test D-dimer, CRP, or Ferritin?
    - bicijay 4y ago
      CRP and ferritin, not the other two i think
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guestbest 4y ago
How much did you self isolate? I’ve noticed that the elderly who self isolated while having it or being around partners who had it have gone through a marketed mental decline. I think physical declines are probably there as well especially as we all age it is difficult to turn back the clock in physical fitness, past 35 more so.
mirekrusin 4y ago
I'd argue that it feels precisely like that - that you became old in last months.
loxias 4y ago
This is me also. I was also isolated seeing only one other human for the entirety of COVID (including now, but I'm gonna move soon so I can at least go into a physical office). I feel like my brain still works at lots of stuff, once it gets going, but I forget what I'm doing randomly and I think I used to be not _THIS_ bad at interacting with other humans :/
- ETH_start 4y ago
  Isolation is associated with much higher risk of serious health conditions: https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older-adults.html https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older... Humans are social animals. COVID response policy to encourage more physical isolation could have deadly implications.
  - spookthesunset 4y ago
    All this was completely obvious to anybody paying even a little bit of attention. Sadly their voices got shut out of the conversation; their proponents yelled at, called horrible names, etc. What society did over the last two and a half years is shameful. Society encouraged and cheered on what is basically mental illness.
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binkHN 4y ago
It's not just you. I know a physically fit personal trainer that has had long COVID for over 8 months now.
marginalia_nu 4y ago
Yeah, I'm definitely not where I was before. Dunno if it's the effects of covid, but social isolation and lack of physical exercise certainly hasn't done my overall well-being any favors either.
dustinmoris 4y ago
It's not just you. I know someone who had Long COVID for 1 month. I also know someone who works with someone who was running marathons every weekend and now they can't walk stairs because of knee pain, all because of COVID. I know someone else who had COVID and then was not doing any sport or social interaction for almost two years, barely left the house and who feels much more tired and depressed now, because of COVID. I know a child, who had COVID, then didn't have proper education for nearly two years and now is really underdeveloped, because of COVID of course.
ETH_start 4y ago
I've heard numerous stories like yours, except about getting the COVID vaccine. Anecdotes are really not useful for teasing out general effects.
- hackerlight 4y ago
  That's abstractly true, but in this case we also have studies that show long COVID, including one that compared brain scans before and after COVID and could see macro brain damage. The brain is an incredibly delicate organ, it isn't surprising that a severe virus can do damage do it.
  - ETH_start 4y ago
    The anecdotes still don't add any useful information, because there is no reliability on their representativeness of the overall data, by the very definition of anecdote.
    - bicijay 4y ago
      Sure, you are right. I still feel like shit after covid.
    - hackerlight 4y ago
      I don't subscribe to this scientism perspective on epistemology when it comes to an individual forming views about the world based on their own experiences. Individual heterogeneity and the level of detail you're able to observe in your own N=1 anecdote can mean that the richness of that dataset is actually superior to an N=1000 dataset in many cases. I am a data scientist and often learn more about a phenomenon by exhaustively digging into a single example than trying to find broad trends in the larger dataset. Basically - avoid methodological purism when it comes to studying phenomena.
      - ETH_start 4y ago
        The anecodote does not reliably tell you anything about the phenomenon. The experience could be due to an entirely different phenomenon, which you are misattributing to the phenomenon in question. Only the scientific approach can make reliable causative associations. You have not made some epistemological breakthrough with your anti-scientific take.

Anecdote, had covid in the end of 2020, still dont feel 100%, maybe i just grew old while sick and thats just life, but i feel like shit comparable to what i felt before it.

daflip 4y ago

this is exactly me also

monetus 4y ago

Work on lung exercises for fatigue. I have had health complications that caused the same problem as long covid seemingly causes; tiny tiny clots wreaking havoc on capillaries. I think it depends on where the viral load landed and grew, but if it was in your lungs, you would maybe need to treat it as if you have chronic bronchitis. If it was in your sinuses and mouth, messing up your senses, then I'm sorry, idk what to do. ...maybe a similar approach with anti-inflammatories, hopefully something for your nerves too. Hope you're good atm

bicijay 4y ago
Yeah, had literally 100s of lab tests, all came back ok. Exercise intolerance for at least an year. But im slowly getting back on form, gym doesnt kill me anymore. Still have some random digestion issues, slightly elevated HR and just generally feeling worse than before. But ill look into lung exercises, thank you for the tip
- JoshTko 4y ago
  Did you tests include inflammation markers such as sedimentation test D-dimer, CRP, or Ferritin?
  - bicijay 4y ago
    CRP and ferritin, not the other two i think
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guestbest 4y ago

How much did you self isolate? I’ve noticed that the elderly who self isolated while having it or being around partners who had it have gone through a marketed mental decline. I think physical declines are probably there as well especially as we all age it is difficult to turn back the clock in physical fitness, past 35 more so.

mirekrusin 4y ago

I'd argue that it feels precisely like that - that you became old in last months.

loxias 4y ago

This is me also. I was also isolated seeing only one other human for the entirety of COVID (including now, but I'm gonna move soon so I can at least go into a physical office). I feel like my brain still works at lots of stuff, once it gets going, but I forget what I'm doing randomly and I think I used to be not _THIS_ bad at interacting with other humans :/

ETH_start 4y ago
Isolation is associated with much higher risk of serious health conditions: https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older-adults.html https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older... Humans are social animals. COVID response policy to encourage more physical isolation could have deadly implications.
- spookthesunset 4y ago
  All this was completely obvious to anybody paying even a little bit of attention. Sadly their voices got shut out of the conversation; their proponents yelled at, called horrible names, etc. What society did over the last two and a half years is shameful. Society encouraged and cheered on what is basically mental illness.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]

binkHN 4y ago

It's not just you. I know a physically fit personal trainer that has had long COVID for over 8 months now.

marginalia_nu 4y ago

Yeah, I'm definitely not where I was before. Dunno if it's the effects of covid, but social isolation and lack of physical exercise certainly hasn't done my overall well-being any favors either.

dustinmoris 4y ago

It's not just you. I know someone who had Long COVID for 1 month. I also know someone who works with someone who was running marathons every weekend and now they can't walk stairs because of knee pain, all because of COVID. I know someone else who had COVID and then was not doing any sport or social interaction for almost two years, barely left the house and who feels much more tired and depressed now, because of COVID. I know a child, who had COVID, then didn't have proper education for nearly two years and now is really underdeveloped, because of COVID of course.

ETH_start 4y ago

I've heard numerous stories like yours, except about getting the COVID vaccine. Anecdotes are really not useful for teasing out general effects.

hackerlight 4y ago
That's abstractly true, but in this case we also have studies that show long COVID, including one that compared brain scans before and after COVID and could see macro brain damage. The brain is an incredibly delicate organ, it isn't surprising that a severe virus can do damage do it.
- ETH_start 4y ago
  The anecdotes still don't add any useful information, because there is no reliability on their representativeness of the overall data, by the very definition of anecdote.
  - bicijay 4y ago
    Sure, you are right. I still feel like shit after covid.
  - hackerlight 4y ago
    I don't subscribe to this scientism perspective on epistemology when it comes to an individual forming views about the world based on their own experiences. Individual heterogeneity and the level of detail you're able to observe in your own N=1 anecdote can mean that the richness of that dataset is actually superior to an N=1000 dataset in many cases. I am a data scientist and often learn more about a phenomenon by exhaustively digging into a single example than trying to find broad trends in the larger dataset. Basically - avoid methodological purism when it comes to studying phenomena.
    - ETH_start 4y ago
      The anecodote does not reliably tell you anything about the phenomenon. The experience could be due to an entirely different phenomenon, which you are misattributing to the phenomenon in question. Only the scientific approach can make reliable causative associations. You have not made some epistemological breakthrough with your anti-scientific take.