I should add that all this meeting-hacking was not my brilliant idea, can't claim any credit I someone else thought this up. I only realised that we were invok

I should add that all this meeting-hacking was not my brilliant idea, can't claim any credit I someone else thought this up. I only realised that we were invoking a form of recursion years later when I was working with a patent attorney on a patent and realised that his patent-english was a sort of programming language in it's own right, with variables and recursion and different meanings for little things like 'or' etc (but, as he explained, not infinite recursion, because that would require infinite dollars to file)