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If time exists then there's always a before. Unless at some point time didn't exist. But if time didn't exist and then suddenly something started to tick, that'

If time exists then there's always a before. Unless at some point time didn't exist. But if time didn't exist and then suddenly something started to tick, that's still a transition from "no time" to "time" and this "no time" was before "time". These thoughts are driving me crazy. There must be a piece of the puzzle we're missing. There must be something about time that isn't or wasn't always linear. Otherwise there's no end to the "who created it" question. It's similar to asking what contains the universe. And what contains the thing that contains the universe.

chiefalchemist 4y ago
It feels as if there's a force (?) that we're not yet recognizing. Else, it's a crazy infinite loop. Not that I'm saying this is true (just an example), but is the Big Bang simply (?) the introduction of time into the then time-less universe? It just doesn't make sense to say "The universe started with the Big Bang" when what that was prior was the universe but in a different form (or so we guess). So it seems that something else had to be introduced to change the nature of the old universe into the new universe. Else the "start" is more like a "transformation" and even that opens a ton of questions. My head hurts.