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Those kids, and any artist, are if nothing else affected by their environment and the culture they experience, at a fundamental and largely unconscious level.
by andrepd 4y ago
Those kids, and any artist, are if nothing else affected by their environment and the culture they experience, at a fundamental and largely unconscious level.
So even the most reclusive artist is in a dialogue: with all the artists of the past several millenia ;)
- zasdffaa 4y ago> even the most reclusive artist is in a dialogue: with all the artists of the past several millenia It's not a dialogue if they're dead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue
- pier25 4y agoNo man is an island, true, but it's quite a leap from that to "art is fundamentally social". And then there's another deep discussion about what is actually art. I would argue if an artist is motivated by social factors to make art, they are not really making art.
- teucris 4y agoDoes that mean all commissioned work (which is a ton of the work that hangs in museums) is not really art?
- pier25 4y agoHow is this related to what I wrote?
- davisoneee 4y agoI assume the parent is implying that commissioned work is 'socially influenced', and thus by your argument, 'not art'...you are creating a piece because someone else is paying you to, not because that particular piece is just something you want to create.
- pier25 4y agoIf money is really the fundamental motivation to do something then yeah I would argue that's not art. I'm not saying if you get paid you're not making art. I'm talking about what's driving someone to do something. Like most chefs are paid to cook but are they doing it, fundamentally, to get paid or there's really another fundamental reason driving their passion? If someone is painting or making music for social reasons like being accepted by others, becoming famous, finding their identity in what others think of their painting/music, getting rich, etc, that's not really what art is about. Of course this is only my opinion about a modern conception of art and what an artist is.
- stemlord 4y ago> if an artist is motivated by social factors to make art Theres an entire subset of socializing/communal happenings as art called relational aesthetics tho
- pier25 4y agoMaybe but I would ask what is the fundamental motivation.