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Green without a proper plan? Germany/Europe will be the green poster children on how not to do it. Guess who will damage the environment more in the end.
by neverrroot 4y ago
Green without a proper plan? Germany/Europe will be the green poster children on how not to do it. Guess who will damage the environment more in the end.
- MomoXenosaga 4y agoNo matter what magic plan anyone comes up with it would take years to implement. Nuclear, more insulation, hydrogen, new gas fields. It's almost winter already.
- neverrroot 4y agoExactly, because it was all done without a proper plan. And they have been warned multiple times, laughter and sarcasm is unfortunately all they had as a reply. Now this.
- Tarsul 4y agothe magic plan should be to consume less and less and less. If we would consume 20% less, which should be absolutely doable, these problems would alleviate itself quite fast (well, we still should invest as much as we can in renewables). However, for that to happen we would need to have governments that are not afraid and act.
- neverrroot 4y agoI have doubts.
- sofixa 4y ago> If we would consume 20% less, which should be absolutely doable, these problems would alleviate itself quite fast (well, we still should invest as much as we can in renewables). However, for that to happen we would need to have governments that are not afraid and act. Act how exactly? How do you propose on forcing everyone, citizens and enterprises, to consume less energy? Why would they want to do that? Transition to less energy intensive alternatives sure (like LEDs), but that's not easy, will require massive investments and is by the way already in progress.
- mantas 4y agoMore insulation is double edge sword. I moved into a super-energy-efficient house here in north/east Europe. Heating in winter is damn cheap. But retention works in summer too… so I had to get air conditioner :( And electrical ventilation is a must all year round to get air fresh, keep module at bay ant not loose energy living with open windows. Energy saving in bottom line will be abysmal :(
- goodpoint 4y ago> But retention works in summer too… so I had to get air conditioner It's the opposite. Insulation protects you from heat as well. That's why refrigerators are very much insulated.
- mantas 4y agoInsulation protects only so long till it heats up. Then it keeps the heat inside.
- goodpoint 4y agoNo, that's just thermal mass and it's zero-sum. That's why you need aircon. Removing insulation doesn't magically make your home cooler.
- mantas 4y agoRemoving insulation means house cools down fast once sun goes down. Which is important for sleeping. While there're myriad of ways to handle heat during the day.
- badpun 4y agoThat house would be much worse without the insulation. That's why it's unbearably hot in summer in say a shack made of out sheet metal (such shack would be much more bearable if it was insulated).
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- IfOnlyYouKnew 4y agoGermany has been exporting electricity to France all summer, because they had to shut down more than half their nuclear power plants for maintenance and due to heat.
- wongarsu 4y agoWhy single out Germany when there are 14 countries on that list with higher prices? Gas as a transitionary energy source is something lots of countries have bet on. Meanwhile France is doing a great job showcasing the problems of Nuclear during heat waves (they will be the ones laughing in the Winter though)
- _dain_ 4y agoBecause the Germans have a huge say in EU energy market regulations.