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> FBI actively peddled misinformation wrongly calling it Russian-propoganda and/or censoring/suppressing it. No, they weren't wrong. This was a Russian propaga

by myko 4y ago

> FBI actively peddled misinformation wrongly calling it Russian-propoganda and/or censoring/suppressing it. No, they weren't wrong. This was a Russian propaganda op to amplify a non-story.

typeofhuman 4y ago
What part of the story was inaccurate?
- myko 4y ago
  The part that alleges the laptop and all the information on it are Hunter's. A laptop exists, yes, but it doesn't mean it's Hunter's or has his information. It also doesn't come close to implicating Joe Biden in any way. All it does is show Hunter is a drug user and has a lot of sex. This was known already. Even the guy who _found_ the laptop says it is likely disinformation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warni...
  - rendall 4y ago
    > "People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation." No credible news source any longer disputes that it was indeed Hunter Biden's laptop. Does this change your opinion of anything? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-...
    - myko 4y ago
      > No credible news source any longer disputes that it was indeed Hunter Biden's laptop. Does this change your opinion of anything? It's already my opinion that the laptop could have belonged to Hunter at some point (no clear evidence on how it was lost-perhaps stolen). We know it was accessed and modified many times by many people, though. We also know there's no evidence of any malfeasance on Joe Biden's part. Given that, what opinion have I claimed in here that you think I should change? Does the following affect your opinion at all? These are some links/quotes that have been posted in other places under this article: "An analysis by Distributed Denial of Secrets of 128,755 emails allegedly copied from the laptop and circulated by allies and former staff of President Donald Trump showed "signs of tampering" including 145 modification dates and emails created more than a year after Hunter Biden allegedly had the laptop." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controve... https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Hunter_Biden_emails#Timeline https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Hunter_Biden_emails#Timeline https://ddosecrets.substack.com/p/release-hunter-biden-emails-36-gb https://ddosecrets.substack.com/p/release-hunter-biden-email... The guy who found the laptop says that claims being made do not match what he saw on the laptop, and it is known that the data has changed hands and been modified multiple times post any Hunter connection: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warni... “[An expert] also found records on the drive that indicated someone may have accessed the drive from a West Coast location in October 2020, little more than a week after the first New York Post stories on Hunter Biden’s laptop appeared.” “Over the next few days, somebody created three additional folders on the drive, titled, ‘Mail,' ‘Salacious Pics Package’ and ‘Big Guy File’ — an apparent reference to Joe Biden.” ... In other words, Mac Isaac [note: the guy who was given the laptop] says that he has seen claims about what the laptop contains that don’t actually reflect what he saw on the laptop at the outset. Additionally, I think folks are losing the forest for the trees: the entire point of this smear campaign is to allege Joe Biden improperly leaned on Ukraine to fire a prosecutor. That is ridiculous on its face as it is well known that the prosecutor in question was corrupt, and it was US policy–not Biden's, but Obama's–to convince Ukraine to fire him. This was a multinational effort btw, not just the US. Do you feel like Biden was wrong to get the guy fired? Some background information on what happened there: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrat...

by myko 4y ago

> FBI actively peddled misinformation wrongly calling it Russian-propoganda and/or censoring/suppressing it. No, they weren't wrong. This was a Russian propaganda op to amplify a non-story.

typeofhuman 4y ago

What part of the story was inaccurate?

myko 4y ago
The part that alleges the laptop and all the information on it are Hunter's. A laptop exists, yes, but it doesn't mean it's Hunter's or has his information. It also doesn't come close to implicating Joe Biden in any way. All it does is show Hunter is a drug user and has a lot of sex. This was known already. Even the guy who _found_ the laptop says it is likely disinformation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warni...
- rendall 4y ago
  > "People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation." No credible news source any longer disputes that it was indeed Hunter Biden's laptop. Does this change your opinion of anything? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-...
  - myko 4y ago
    > No credible news source any longer disputes that it was indeed Hunter Biden's laptop. Does this change your opinion of anything? It's already my opinion that the laptop could have belonged to Hunter at some point (no clear evidence on how it was lost-perhaps stolen). We know it was accessed and modified many times by many people, though. We also know there's no evidence of any malfeasance on Joe Biden's part. Given that, what opinion have I claimed in here that you think I should change? Does the following affect your opinion at all? These are some links/quotes that have been posted in other places under this article: "An analysis by Distributed Denial of Secrets of 128,755 emails allegedly copied from the laptop and circulated by allies and former staff of President Donald Trump showed "signs of tampering" including 145 modification dates and emails created more than a year after Hunter Biden allegedly had the laptop." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controve... https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Hunter_Biden_emails#Timeline https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Hunter_Biden_emails#Timeline https://ddosecrets.substack.com/p/release-hunter-biden-emails-36-gb https://ddosecrets.substack.com/p/release-hunter-biden-email... The guy who found the laptop says that claims being made do not match what he saw on the laptop, and it is known that the data has changed hands and been modified multiple times post any Hunter connection: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warni... “[An expert] also found records on the drive that indicated someone may have accessed the drive from a West Coast location in October 2020, little more than a week after the first New York Post stories on Hunter Biden’s laptop appeared.” “Over the next few days, somebody created three additional folders on the drive, titled, ‘Mail,' ‘Salacious Pics Package’ and ‘Big Guy File’ — an apparent reference to Joe Biden.” ... In other words, Mac Isaac [note: the guy who was given the laptop] says that he has seen claims about what the laptop contains that don’t actually reflect what he saw on the laptop at the outset. Additionally, I think folks are losing the forest for the trees: the entire point of this smear campaign is to allege Joe Biden improperly leaned on Ukraine to fire a prosecutor. That is ridiculous on its face as it is well known that the prosecutor in question was corrupt, and it was US policy–not Biden's, but Obama's–to convince Ukraine to fire him. This was a multinational effort btw, not just the US. Do you feel like Biden was wrong to get the guy fired? Some background information on what happened there: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrat...