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Honestly the conservatives are such an awful party in their current form. Short sighted cost cutting and focussing on ideological issues like Brexit while doli

by jarym 4y ago

Honestly the conservatives are such an awful party in their current form. Short sighted cost cutting and focussing on ideological issues like Brexit while doling out lucrative contracts to connected parties during a pandemic. So horrible that in the current leadership contest there’s not much either candidate can say that’s positive about their last 12 years in government.

etothepii 4y ago
Isn't it strange how both sides of the political divide have no problem assuming the ineptitudes of their opponents derive from bad motives? By definition Liz Truss's "tax cuts will grow the economy" plan is the definition of long term thinking. You might disagree or think it's wrong but it's not short termism.
- short_sells_poo 4y ago
  We need long term solutions for sure. But right now we need very urgently a short term solution to bridge over the majority of the population who won't be able to heat and power their homes this winter. What we need is clear and efficient crisis response and all the Tory government has shown so far is a colossal ineptitude and blatant corruption coupled with near sociopathic disregard for the wellbeing of most people.
- stevesimmons 4y ago
  > ... is the definition of long term thinking It involved no thinking beyond "will it help me be elected prime minister over the next two weeks?"
  - jarym 4y ago
    Yep - they’ll say anything to get in and once they do they’ll do whatever they feel like. Promises are cheap, more so those without details. She could get herself elected, deliver a tax cut worth £1 in absolute terms to every tax payer and claim she delivered under difficult circumstances. Rishi at least isn’t lying about the challenges but honesty doesn’t work so well during elections as he’s sadly learning. But crocodile tears from me for his plight.
    - ploppyploppy 4y ago
      > Yep - they’ll say anything to get in and once they do they’ll do whatever they feel like This is true of most top-tier politicians. Are you a child?
- jarym 4y ago
  Tax cuts are needed - not least because the taxation burden is the heaviest it’s been in decades. But low taxes won’t solve the energy crisis we have right now - she’s going with the right solution to the wrong problem. How do I know this? Well the majority of the population pay less than £7k in taxes per annum. And that’s where energy is expected to be within a year. So even if all those people were paying no tax at all (and this is an extreme and unrealistic scenario that’s not viable), it wouldn’t offset the cost of household bills. Not to mention that businesses aren’t protected by the caps so the cost of everything else will go up

by jarym 4y ago

etothepii 4y ago

Isn't it strange how both sides of the political divide have no problem assuming the ineptitudes of their opponents derive from bad motives? By definition Liz Truss's "tax cuts will grow the economy" plan is the definition of long term thinking. You might disagree or think it's wrong but it's not short termism.

short_sells_poo 4y ago
We need long term solutions for sure. But right now we need very urgently a short term solution to bridge over the majority of the population who won't be able to heat and power their homes this winter. What we need is clear and efficient crisis response and all the Tory government has shown so far is a colossal ineptitude and blatant corruption coupled with near sociopathic disregard for the wellbeing of most people.
stevesimmons 4y ago
> ... is the definition of long term thinking It involved no thinking beyond "will it help me be elected prime minister over the next two weeks?"
- jarym 4y ago
  Yep - they’ll say anything to get in and once they do they’ll do whatever they feel like. Promises are cheap, more so those without details. She could get herself elected, deliver a tax cut worth £1 in absolute terms to every tax payer and claim she delivered under difficult circumstances. Rishi at least isn’t lying about the challenges but honesty doesn’t work so well during elections as he’s sadly learning. But crocodile tears from me for his plight.
  - ploppyploppy 4y ago
    > Yep - they’ll say anything to get in and once they do they’ll do whatever they feel like This is true of most top-tier politicians. Are you a child?
jarym 4y ago
Tax cuts are needed - not least because the taxation burden is the heaviest it’s been in decades. But low taxes won’t solve the energy crisis we have right now - she’s going with the right solution to the wrong problem. How do I know this? Well the majority of the population pay less than £7k in taxes per annum. And that’s where energy is expected to be within a year. So even if all those people were paying no tax at all (and this is an extreme and unrealistic scenario that’s not viable), it wouldn’t offset the cost of household bills. Not to mention that businesses aren’t protected by the caps so the cost of everything else will go up