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Browser Startups Take Aim at Google Chrome, Apple Safari

12 points by jkuria 4y ago

0xChain 4y ago
Paywalled so I couldn’t see what startups were mentioned. If you’re on macOS and/or iOS, I’ve been testing out the browser Orion from Kagi. It’s not perfect, yet. Though, I see the merit in a privacy-respecting WebKit-based browser. It’s a good working beta at this stage. They’re doing a more unique method to thwart fingerprinting. And I believe they want to eventually build out variants for other platforms. It could be the next best alternative browser in the future.
jkuria 4y ago
Here's the non-paywalled link:https://archive.is/m75UG https://archive.is/m75UG
- 0xChain 4y ago
  Doing god’s work. Thank you for that.
garyclarke27 4y ago
The article focuses too much on bashing Google when Apple is the real villain. Apple blatantly lies by saying they allow alternative browsers on their platform - they do not - because they force everyone to use their WebKit browser engine, ie core functionality is defined by them so any differences are mostly trivial and cosmetic AND of-course they are slow to adopt JavaScript or CSS features that would threaten Native Apps.
- i67vw3 4y ago
  > An Apple spokeswoman said WebKit is important to protecting privacy and security, as well as promoting efficiency and performance. She said users can easily change their default browser on the company’s devices. Completely bogus statement from apple spokeperson. Personally, I prefer google over apple (degoogled google). Google gives you absolute freedom while apple does not. This freedom can be used to have more private experience than apple.
- gardenfelder 4y ago
  >Apple blatantly lies by saying they allow alternative browsers on their platform - they do not - What? I'm having problems interpreting that; I'm typing this in Firefox on a MacbookPro; I installed Brave on an Ipad. What, precisely are you saying?
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    It's all the same browser. Apple won't let other developers implement their own rendering engine, which gives them unimpeachable control over what apps work natively and which are incompatible with their browser. It's holding the industry back, and Apple is doing it because doing anything else would threaten their margins.
  - s__s 4y ago
    They allow alternative browser engines on macOS but not on iOS. Brave on iPad is just a wrapper around WebKit. (Same with Firefox, Chrome, etc)

12 points by jkuria 4y ago

Paywalled so I couldn’t see what startups were mentioned. If you’re on macOS and/or iOS, I’ve been testing out the browser Orion from Kagi. It’s not perfect, yet. Though, I see the merit in a privacy-respecting WebKit-based browser. It’s a good working beta at this stage. They’re doing a more unique method to thwart fingerprinting. And I believe they want to eventually build out variants for other platforms. It could be the next best alternative browser in the future.

jkuria 4y ago

Here's the non-paywalled link:https://archive.is/m75UG https://archive.is/m75UG

0xChain 4y ago
Doing god’s work. Thank you for that.

garyclarke27 4y ago

The article focuses too much on bashing Google when Apple is the real villain. Apple blatantly lies by saying they allow alternative browsers on their platform - they do not - because they force everyone to use their WebKit browser engine, ie core functionality is defined by them so any differences are mostly trivial and cosmetic AND of-course they are slow to adopt JavaScript or CSS features that would threaten Native Apps.

i67vw3 4y ago
> An Apple spokeswoman said WebKit is important to protecting privacy and security, as well as promoting efficiency and performance. She said users can easily change their default browser on the company’s devices. Completely bogus statement from apple spokeperson. Personally, I prefer google over apple (degoogled google). Google gives you absolute freedom while apple does not. This freedom can be used to have more private experience than apple.
gardenfelder 4y ago
>Apple blatantly lies by saying they allow alternative browsers on their platform - they do not - What? I'm having problems interpreting that; I'm typing this in Firefox on a MacbookPro; I installed Brave on an Ipad. What, precisely are you saying?
- smoldesu 4y ago
  It's all the same browser. Apple won't let other developers implement their own rendering engine, which gives them unimpeachable control over what apps work natively and which are incompatible with their browser. It's holding the industry back, and Apple is doing it because doing anything else would threaten their margins.
- s__s 4y ago
  They allow alternative browser engines on macOS but not on iOS. Brave on iPad is just a wrapper around WebKit. (Same with Firefox, Chrome, etc)