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It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money u

It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt?

cm2187 4y ago
I'm not sure what this has to do with suppressing the laptop story
- jensensbutton 4y ago
  You suggested it's the "mother of all conflicts of interest". It's clearly not.
syockit 4y ago
I remember that one. It's the one where Biden said "well, son of a bitch, he got fired", right? But what does that have to do with Trump?
- deleted 4y ago
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iso1631 4y ago
Whataboutism
- hoffs 4y ago
  Op literally ended a statement with whatabautism in mind
  - cm2187 4y ago
    OMG, you can read my mind?
- kolanos 4y ago
  It is literally the same story with drastically different results for the participants given their relative actions. The abuse of whataboutism has rendered it nonsense.
  - picardythird 4y ago
    Abusing power to get re-elected is not the same as abusing power to advantage one's son in their career. Again, both unsavory. "literally the same story"?
    - kolanos 4y ago
      Pressuring a foreign leader to investigate potential corruption is not the same as pressuring a foreign leader to fire a prosecutor who is investigating corruption of which your family is directly involved.
      - picardythird 4y ago
        > Pressuring a foreign leader to investigate potential corruption Right, anti-corruption Trump. Just stealing classified documents, installing his kids (and fucking son-in-law) in the white house, spending a third of his presidency hosting events and bookings on his properties, blackmailing Ukraine for political dirt, Trump University, refusing to accept a peaceful transition of power...Ok. My time is being unfairly wasted here.
- picardythird 4y ago
  Calling it the "mother of all conflicts of interest" is inviting a direct comparison to other conflicts of interest, unless words have no meaning. I'm suggesting they do, and what OP said was absurd given the surrounding context, which I brought up.
kolanos 4y ago
> It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt? Trump was asking the Ukrainian President to investigate whether Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire their top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, because he was actively investigating Hunter Biden's involvement in Burisma. Here's Joe Biden bragging about getting the prosecutor fired. Ironically in this video Biden openly admits to threatening to withhold aid if the prosecutor isn't fired. [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt?

cm2187 4y ago

I'm not sure what this has to do with suppressing the laptop story

jensensbutton 4y ago
You suggested it's the "mother of all conflicts of interest". It's clearly not.

syockit 4y ago

I remember that one. It's the one where Biden said "well, son of a bitch, he got fired", right? But what does that have to do with Trump?

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iso1631 4y ago

Whataboutism

hoffs 4y ago
Op literally ended a statement with whatabautism in mind
- cm2187 4y ago
  OMG, you can read my mind?
kolanos 4y ago
It is literally the same story with drastically different results for the participants given their relative actions. The abuse of whataboutism has rendered it nonsense.
- picardythird 4y ago
  Abusing power to get re-elected is not the same as abusing power to advantage one's son in their career. Again, both unsavory. "literally the same story"?
  - kolanos 4y ago
    Pressuring a foreign leader to investigate potential corruption is not the same as pressuring a foreign leader to fire a prosecutor who is investigating corruption of which your family is directly involved.
    - picardythird 4y ago
      > Pressuring a foreign leader to investigate potential corruption Right, anti-corruption Trump. Just stealing classified documents, installing his kids (and fucking son-in-law) in the white house, spending a third of his presidency hosting events and bookings on his properties, blackmailing Ukraine for political dirt, Trump University, refusing to accept a peaceful transition of power...Ok. My time is being unfairly wasted here.
picardythird 4y ago
Calling it the "mother of all conflicts of interest" is inviting a direct comparison to other conflicts of interest, unless words have no meaning. I'm suggesting they do, and what OP said was absurd given the surrounding context, which I brought up.

kolanos 4y ago

> It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt? Trump was asking the Ukrainian President to investigate whether Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire their top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, because he was actively investigating Hunter Biden's involvement in Burisma. Here's Joe Biden bragging about getting the prosecutor fired. Ironically in this video Biden openly admits to threatening to withhold aid if the prosecutor isn't fired. [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY