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Oh please. It's called "content curation". You want zero of that? There is always 8chan. If you enjoy seeing things that make you want to pour Clorox into your

by papito 4y ago

Oh please. It's called "content curation". You want zero of that? There is always 8chan. If you enjoy seeing things that make you want to pour Clorox into your eyes.

colordrops 4y ago
The television stations and newspapers back in the day absolutely maintained the Overton window and constructed narratives that supported the the ruling class. To call this "content curation" is ignorant at best.
- arinlen 4y ago
  > The television stations and newspapers back in the day absolutely maintained the Overton window and constructed narratives that supported the the ruling class. To call this "content curation" is ignorant at best. It's also ignorant at best to pass off "maintaining the Overton window" as being censorship. Whether you like it or not, there's a finite amount of airtime and an infinite amount of content that can be presented. Picking what goes in is not the same as picking what stays out. See as an example what's aired by some peculiar media companies.
  - colordrops 4y ago
    You are confused about what the Overton window describes. It's not "picking and choosing what to talk about due to limited airtime". Look it up.
    - arinlen 4y ago
      > You are confused about what the Overton window describes. It's not "picking and choosing what to talk about due to limited airtime". Look it up. Not really. Before trying to accuse anyone of being confused, please try your best to read what those you're replying to did said. Otherwise you're just adding noise to discussions.
- papito 4y ago
  You mean, like, not completely make up stuff about "stolen elections"?
  - colordrops 4y ago
    Why don't you just come out and say that you believe censorship is a good thing because it protects us from bad guys? Just because you believe it's a good thing doesn't mean it's not still censorship.
    - papito 4y ago
      Multiple outlets are dedicated to regurgitating repeatedly debunked conspiracy theories and misinformation. What "censorship" are you even talking about? MSNBC not letting some nut job go on the air to spew garbage in prime time is their basic right as a business. You don't have any God-given privilege to sit in that chair, nor anyone else. The government, the government is not stopping any of this, which would be actual censorship. It's just startling to me that someone on HackerNews, of all places, does not know the absolutely elementary difference between moderation by a private company and government-filtered speech.
darepublic 4y ago
But then when say the government is lying about something and the curators keep curating out the pertinent details, suddenly you need to go to such a tough place to find the truth
- papito 4y ago
  I would like to hear one example. One. Which "truth" did you find out on 8chan that the government lied about?
  - kofejnik 4y ago
    That masks help prevent spread of Covid?
    - cf141q5325 4y ago
      Seeing as it has been over two years now, here is Fauci on the topic to refresh peoples memories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MmX2U2V3c&t=18s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MmX2U2V3c&t=18s
  - yonaguska 4y ago
    Not just 8chan, but rumble, 4chan, substack, etc- anything counter to the accepted covid narratives, which changed several times, you pretty much had to go to alternative sites to even discuss such topics. And now the truth is finally being accepted, that the covid vaccines are potentially harmful for young people, or that covid doesn't actually cause myocarditis or a myriad of other vaccine side effects.
  - darepublic 4y ago
    Not about 8chan I mean a place where there is no censorship. It is not a guarantee of truth but sometimes a prerequisite
  - colordrops 4y ago
    We found out many things from WikiLeaks, such as the government killing journalists to hide atrocities.
selfhoster11 4y ago
Is it censorship to only permit e. g. knitting content to be discussed on a knitting Discord server and to ban most other topics? There are only a handful of places where one can discuss narrow-appeal topics like knitting, and many more places to discuss anything else. If you didn’t ban other topics (i. e. curate content), the server would collapse thanks to narrow-interest content getting lost in the noise.

by papito 4y ago

Oh please. It's called "content curation". You want zero of that? There is always 8chan. If you enjoy seeing things that make you want to pour Clorox into your eyes.

colordrops 4y ago

The television stations and newspapers back in the day absolutely maintained the Overton window and constructed narratives that supported the the ruling class. To call this "content curation" is ignorant at best.

arinlen 4y ago
> The television stations and newspapers back in the day absolutely maintained the Overton window and constructed narratives that supported the the ruling class. To call this "content curation" is ignorant at best. It's also ignorant at best to pass off "maintaining the Overton window" as being censorship. Whether you like it or not, there's a finite amount of airtime and an infinite amount of content that can be presented. Picking what goes in is not the same as picking what stays out. See as an example what's aired by some peculiar media companies.
- colordrops 4y ago
  You are confused about what the Overton window describes. It's not "picking and choosing what to talk about due to limited airtime". Look it up.
  - arinlen 4y ago
    > You are confused about what the Overton window describes. It's not "picking and choosing what to talk about due to limited airtime". Look it up. Not really. Before trying to accuse anyone of being confused, please try your best to read what those you're replying to did said. Otherwise you're just adding noise to discussions.
papito 4y ago
You mean, like, not completely make up stuff about "stolen elections"?
- colordrops 4y ago
  Why don't you just come out and say that you believe censorship is a good thing because it protects us from bad guys? Just because you believe it's a good thing doesn't mean it's not still censorship.
  - papito 4y ago
    Multiple outlets are dedicated to regurgitating repeatedly debunked conspiracy theories and misinformation. What "censorship" are you even talking about? MSNBC not letting some nut job go on the air to spew garbage in prime time is their basic right as a business. You don't have any God-given privilege to sit in that chair, nor anyone else. The government, the government is not stopping any of this, which would be actual censorship. It's just startling to me that someone on HackerNews, of all places, does not know the absolutely elementary difference between moderation by a private company and government-filtered speech.

darepublic 4y ago

But then when say the government is lying about something and the curators keep curating out the pertinent details, suddenly you need to go to such a tough place to find the truth

papito 4y ago
I would like to hear one example. One. Which "truth" did you find out on 8chan that the government lied about?
- kofejnik 4y ago
  That masks help prevent spread of Covid?
  - cf141q5325 4y ago
    Seeing as it has been over two years now, here is Fauci on the topic to refresh peoples memories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MmX2U2V3c&t=18s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MmX2U2V3c&t=18s
- yonaguska 4y ago
  Not just 8chan, but rumble, 4chan, substack, etc- anything counter to the accepted covid narratives, which changed several times, you pretty much had to go to alternative sites to even discuss such topics. And now the truth is finally being accepted, that the covid vaccines are potentially harmful for young people, or that covid doesn't actually cause myocarditis or a myriad of other vaccine side effects.
- darepublic 4y ago
  Not about 8chan I mean a place where there is no censorship. It is not a guarantee of truth but sometimes a prerequisite
- colordrops 4y ago
  We found out many things from WikiLeaks, such as the government killing journalists to hide atrocities.

selfhoster11 4y ago

Is it censorship to only permit e. g. knitting content to be discussed on a knitting Discord server and to ban most other topics? There are only a handful of places where one can discuss narrow-appeal topics like knitting, and many more places to discuss anything else. If you didn’t ban other topics (i. e. curate content), the server would collapse thanks to narrow-interest content getting lost in the noise.