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I believe the most problematic part isn't that his father knew, but that his father delivered on the son selling access to his father when he was VP, and the so
by cm2187 4y ago
I believe the most problematic part isn't that his father knew, but that his father delivered on the son selling access to his father when he was VP, and the son suggesting he is the front man for the family, collecting the money and covering the costs.
And with a lot of this money coming from Ukraine, and then the father writing $40 billion checks to ukraine, independently of what you think of the war (I am in favour of this aid myself), this is the mother of all conflicts of interest.
- picardythird 4y agoIt’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt?
- cm2187 4y agoI'm not sure what this has to do with suppressing the laptop story
- jensensbutton 4y agoYou suggested it's the "mother of all conflicts of interest". It's clearly not.
- syockit 4y agoI remember that one. It's the one where Biden said "well, son of a bitch, he got fired", right? But what does that have to do with Trump?
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- iso1631 4y agoWhataboutism
- hoffs 4y agoOp literally ended a statement with whatabautism in mind
- cm2187 4y agoOMG, you can read my mind?
- kolanos 4y agoIt is literally the same story with drastically different results for the participants given their relative actions. The abuse of whataboutism has rendered it nonsense.
- picardythird 4y agoAbusing power to get re-elected is not the same as abusing power to advantage one's son in their career. Again, both unsavory. "literally the same story"?
- kolanos 4y agoPressuring a foreign leader to investigate potential corruption is not the same as pressuring a foreign leader to fire a prosecutor who is investigating corruption of which your family is directly involved.
- picardythird 4y ago> Pressuring a foreign leader to investigate potential corruption Right, anti-corruption Trump. Just stealing classified documents, installing his kids (and fucking son-in-law) in the white house, spending a third of his presidency hosting events and bookings on his properties, blackmailing Ukraine for political dirt, Trump University, refusing to accept a peaceful transition of power...Ok. My time is being unfairly wasted here.
- picardythird 4y ago
- kolanos 4y ago> It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt? Trump was asking the Ukrainian President to investigate whether Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire their top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, because he was actively investigating Hunter Biden's involvement in Burisma. Here's Joe Biden bragging about getting the prosecutor fired. Ironically in this video Biden openly admits to threatening to withhold aid if the prosecutor isn't fired. [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY